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Posted: **Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:07 am**

So this Jamie Lidell guy.. is his act simular to Kid Beyond's? I can't really tell from the short youtube clips but a lot of his stuff sounds like looped vocals

Posted: **Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:43 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:59 pm**

franknputer wrote:That was pretty cool, but I wasn't blown away. He never seemed to get a cohesive thing going - some of the beats were cool, but he never built on any of them...and the effects stuff...it was kinda interesting for about a minute, but reminded me of the shit I used to do with a guitar & a digital delay...

also his timing is horrid.

Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:30 pm**

I'm with the sales dude, it was a lot like walking into the keyboard area of Guitar Center.

Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:08 pm**

Tone Deft wrote:
kabuki wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote: yeah you're right. there is absolutely not skill in improvisation......

like jazz ya know? terrible music cause it's just all random and stuff.

(taste the sarcasm please)
I get that there is improvisation. I improvises with my ass every time I farts. Doesn't mean it's any more enjoyable. Smell the sarcasm, please.

Jazz has chords, melody, a key... and a structure of SOME kind. That's not even a stretch for me to find one. I can't, for the life of me, find squat resembling a musical structure or a tune in it. (I have heard some ultra-fast Drum and Bass that some might consider IDM, but it was just really fast DnB.)

If they called it "Improvizational Noise Music" instead of "INTELLIGENT Dance Music", I would at least get where they are going with it. I see neither intellegence nor danceability in it. They could call it Texas Two-Step and it would be about as fitting as IDM.

Just my opinion.
'They' don't like the term IDM for the same reasons.
Jazz is not always about the chart, 'learn all your theory, shut up and play.' I went to a jazz performance where they played from the plot of an atom being smashed, each performer picked a particle and followed its path outward.

Like you said, it's opinion, I hear where you're coming from, there can be a fine line between noise and music. I err on the side of having no line.

yeah, but jazz bands can typical string the pieces of a song together, without it feeling like part... new part... new part..., etc. this kid is good, but he doesn't have much skill in making a cohesive piece of music. instead of a song, it's just a bunch of parts put next to each other. kind of.

Posted: **Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:11 pm**

lis102trants wrote:So this Jamie Lidell guy.. is his act simular to Kid Beyond's? I can't really tell from the short youtube clips but a lot of his stuff sounds like looped vocals

i think his live stuff is like that, sometimes, but the albums are completely different. i was a fan of his after the second album, i honestly think his first album blows, it's just hard to listen to. the second album has a very motown-ish bluesy vibe, with most of the programming being masked so you don't think there's programming at all. i think he toured with a band for a little, but i'm not sure what he's doing now.

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