Oh why is Live so much slower on OSX vs Bootcamp'd XP

EgAD · Post by **EgAD** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:15 am

noisetonepause wrote:Performance or not, everytime I use Windows I'm genuinely surprised exactly how shite it is. I honestly, honestly cannot understand how anyone can bear using it. It is a clusterfuck and a travesty and we'd be better off if not so much as one key command of its legacy lived to see the end of this month.

(And it can take the BIOS and 386 compatibility with it!)

Wouldn't it be great to have a user interface that, you know, invited applications to work together? Instead of just keeping everything maximised and doing everything in thousand pound suites like Dreamweaver?

Wouldn't it be great to have a UI with a single, coherent vision, one metaphor that ran as the basis of the man/machine interaction?

Wouldn't it be great to have an OS that invited hacking and tinkering, that opened itself up when you asked it to? That didn't try to hide its functionality behind cryptic naming schemes and a lack of documentation? And last, but not least, that behaved in an at least somewhat predictable manner?

I tell you, mates, we are being robbed! Robbed of endless opportunities! Robbed of sleep and our blood pressure! Of our way to make our own fortune! Silver And Gold!

...

it already exist and it's called 'the borg collective'

Dj-Grobe · Post by **Dj-Grobe** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:03 am

Well i have days ago mackbo pro and see same results.
I sell my macbook pro, now buy a sony vaio computer, and use vista.
I see better work of ableton under vista, lower usage compared with osx.
Under osx whe open effect for first time have ugly audio drops, on widnows that not happen.
I leave osx for now, not forever...
4 gigs with windows now, absolutly 0 problem.

shaneblyth · Post by **shaneblyth** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:03 am

My MacbookPro has XP and Vista on Bootcamp
Using my presonus firebox and latest Live I find There is very little difference in speed. Vista is slowest as in sluggish interface and XP fastest interface wise and OSX is in the middle but when it comes to cpu performance there is only every a few percentage points different on my projects. I still prefer OSX from a stability point. I also run ableton live in a new user account so I dont have any addons or the like. Only takes a mintue to set a new user account up.
My setup is 2.33ghz Core2Duo 17" Macbookpro with 2 gigs ram
XP is all updates and when I tried Vista it was U;imate (I deleted it a couple of days ago and went back to XP as I found the interface too sluggish compared to XP and honestly it didnt do any more that XP did so I didnt see the point .. it also used 8.5gigs just for the OS !!)

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:53 am

shaneblyth wrote:Using my presonus firebox and latest Live I find There is very little difference in speed. Vista is slowest as in sluggish interface and XP fastest interface wise and OSX is in the middle but when it comes to cpu performance there is only every a few percentage points different on my projects.

Yeah I'm betting 90% of the "problem" is people not setting processor speed to 'highest' in System Preferences in OSX on their macbooks, then thinking that XP/Vista is "faster"......

shaneblyth · Post by **shaneblyth** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:02 am

Machinesworking wrote: Yeah I'm betting 90% of the "problem" is people not setting processor speed to 'highest' in System Preferences in OSX on their macbooks, then thinking that XP/Vista is "faster"......

which particular setting are you refering to.. do you mean energy saving/power adaptor / best performance ? setting

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:27 am

Machinesworking wrote:
shaneblyth wrote:Using my presonus firebox and latest Live I find There is very little difference in speed. Vista is slowest as in sluggish interface and XP fastest interface wise and OSX is in the middle but when it comes to cpu performance there is only every a few percentage points different on my projects.
Yeah I'm betting 90% of the "problem" is people not setting processor speed to 'highest' in System Preferences in OSX on their macbooks, then thinking that XP/Vista is "faster"......

Even if that were the case, the system would reach the threshold for the lower clock speed, and increase it to the full speed.

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:32 am

timothyallan wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:
shaneblyth wrote:Using my presonus firebox and latest Live I find There is very little difference in speed. Vista is slowest as in sluggish interface and XP fastest interface wise and OSX is in the middle but when it comes to cpu performance there is only every a few percentage points different on my projects.
Yeah I'm betting 90% of the "problem" is people not setting processor speed to 'highest' in System Preferences in OSX on their macbooks, then thinking that XP/Vista is "faster"......
Even if that were the case, the system would reach the threshold for the lower clock speed, and increase it to the full speed.

yeah

Machines - that would only account for dropouts when it changes the CPU speed that occasionally happen for some

it wouldnt account for maxing it out

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:34 pm

It seems to vary... I get similar usage using non-live plugs. I can run almost the same amount of guitar rigs between the two OS's.

I'm wondering if it's the plugins included with Live and not the actual application. Ohhh the plot thickens.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:45 pm

*yawn*

timothyallan · Post by **timothyallan** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:51 pm

nway!