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one mans trash is another mans treasure.

I hate to admit i like kanye wests music because of all the stupid shit he says. The only thing ive ever agreed with him on is george bush hates black people. But even if you dont like it, you cant argue the fact he sells well.(as daft punk/madonna/metallica and so on and so on)

i hate you all

audio.android wrote:Which album were you listening to?

I picked up musique vol. 1

I do agree that overcompression is stupid, and that it is a serious problem in modern music. But to me that doesn't really apply to Daft Punk... because that's the sound they are going for. The actual PUMPING in the music. It gets your body moving.

good point.

At any rate, for a great article about the history of overcompression in the music industry, check this out:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/aug07/5429

that's a great read, thanks!

nice post

Ah yeah, I wasn't impressed with Musique vol 1. It doesn't have any cohesion. Honestly, I think that album was Virgin Records just trying to make more money.

If you ever feel like giving Daft Punk a second chance, check out Discovery. It's very cohesive for a dance album. In fact, it's so cohesive that they created an entire anime-style movie to the soundtrack. Some call the movie cheezy... it's totally awesome though.

Anyway, glad that you liked the overcompression article.

-about orig. post:

as far as i'm concerened they were making pop music from the start.

how can you be upset that they combined with another form of pop music?




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audio.android wrote:Which album were you listening to? Because I'm not really a fan of Human After All. But Discovery, on the other hand, is like sweet sweet love.

Like they say, horses for courses. I personally can't get into that at all. But I like all other kinds of electronic / dance / techno / "EBM" / "IDM" / etc., acts

But this sort of thing secretly gives me hope for my own CDs. I figure there must be SOMEONE in the world who likes my compositions as much as I do. But the problem is that if people email me who like my stuff, I'm so grateful that I want to send them all my CDs for free.

audio.android wrote:I do agree that overcompression is stupid, and that it is a serious problem in modern music. But to me that doesn't really apply to Daft Punk... because that's the sound they are going for. The actual PUMPING in the music. It gets your body moving. It It's the brickwalled Alt-Rock tracks that really annoys me.

That I have to agree with.

I think if you were going to compose a piece with FULL dynamic range, you'd need to put a test tone at the beginning of the CD with the instructions: "Please adjust the volume of this track to the loudest level that you want the following piece of music to play at."

At any rate, for a great article about the history of overcompression in the music industry, check this out:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/aug07/5429

That's a great article. I have Katz' Understanding Mastering and agree with this entire issue, but I must hang my head in shame in that I generally master my louder tracks to an average level of between -14 and -13 dbfs.

The other nice thing about the Spectrum article is that it's one of the only things I've read in the last 10 years where "throes" is used and spelled properly:

"Even though the CD might be in its death throes, most digital..."

On a completely different note, after 12 years of self-releasing my own CDs I finally have my own artist entry on allmusic.com! Now I can die happy.