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djadonis206 wrote:Rap out the south is the best in my opinion

AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THEIR MUSIC I HAVE 2 VIDEOS UP ON MY MYSPACE PAGE...CLICK THE SIGNATURE

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i was just joking, you didn't have to do all that.
but i'll check them out for sure.
thanks!

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what's interesting is some people are off the opinion all this gangsta rap is comparable to the glam rock of the 80's

sort of like how glam rock killed rock for a few years until grunge brought rock back in the early mid 90's

since hip hop is so far from what it was (or at least what I grew up listening to) I purposely seek out the most ghetto southern gangsta rap (I'm also from the south)

I choose not to listen to anything that's not about money, selling drugs, cars, 20 + inch rims and gangstaism <--> I leave that for everybody else


check out plies - he's dope

I really like rick ross cause he's just such a huge baller

cocaine money, rims and grills - nothings better in life

djadonis206 wrote:what's interesting is some people are off the opinion all this gangsta rap is comparable to the glam rock of the 80's

Thats how most folks downunder look at US rappers.



Aggro-Glam / Bully-Bling

djadonis206 wrote:cocaine money, rims and grills - nothings better in life

You forgot the biatches!

Check out this great live hip hop/jazz/funk band from the mission district, San Francisco:

myspace.com/theshotgunweddingquintet

Top notch jazz musicians, great mc, great dj.



Kirb

All I like is the Old School.

BDP
Mantronix
Stetsasonic
Big Daddy Kane
EPMD
Kid-n-Play
Public Enemy
LL
Slick Rick
TLA Rock
3D
Trecherous 3
etc, etc, etc

djadonis206 wrote:what's interesting is some people are off the opinion all this gangsta rap is comparable to the glam rock of the 80's

sort of like how glam rock killed rock for a few years until grunge brought rock back in the early mid 90's

Gangsta rap has become like hair metal: Cartoonish, ego-driven copy-cat music which is more concerned with making money than making good art. Having said that, it obviously should be noted that real gangsta rap doesn't exist anymore, because it - like grunge - was a movement born of necessity and honest expression. The street rap of today is not; it is a style that postures much the same, but is only surface-deep.

Personally I am disapointed in the direction rap has gone, at least as far as the mainstream. Not to say I don't like a lot of it; Weezy's pretty good when he's not makin' out with Birdman, and I've definitely been diggin' the new Clipse. But it's all so stale...shit's just played out.

It's easy to flip rhymes about selling coke and banging bitches. It gets easier every year, cuz the same shit gets rehashed over and over. I swear, hip-hop's becoming more and more Republican, with the focus being on commercialism and not the art. The single's are just becoming an easy way to sell the clothes/drinks/sneakers etc... But it makes money so The Market Has Spoken. It wouldn't make money if it wasn't good right? Crap is never popular or profitable, especially not in music. Noooo, never!

I love hip-hop, but along with just about every other mainstream musical genre right now it's hurting badly from a lack of focus, creativity, and concern about the evolution of the art over the possibilities of how to profit from it.


/steps off soapbox

That's pretty much what I was saying

sad

but,

entertaining at the same time

Don't believe the hype!

the only thing i hate more than gangster rap is the hideous , ridiculous, and ugly album covers that accompany gangster rap albums. i mean with all that bling bling player you should skip on buying one of those gold ropes and hire someone with some freakin design skills.

then skip on that extra set of slammin 20's and hire someone that can make a good beat. all the g rap i hear sounds so bad...so so bad. and bad meaning bad not bad meaning good.

First up - I'm a head. Hip-hop makes me feel great. The problem I have is:

Years ago - girls, drugs and money were the RESULT of successful hip-hop. Now, "rappers" feel the need to throw references to money, girls and drugs BEFORE they've got the success.

That makes me feel bad.

If hip-hop makes you feel good, you've got the right to put it out there. Whether your black/white/red/purple.

I can't WAIT 'til this silly pre-occupation with money/girls/guns is over. Hip-Hop is fun. It makes you shake your ass. It got the funk running through it...

Heh-heh.

I live in Brooklyn, and I know a lot of young rappers, some good, some not so much. One thing I notice is that the ones who come from middle class, secure families tend to shy away from talking about money/bling/gangster stuff. The kids in my neighborhood don't have money at all. I live walking distance from the Marcy projects (where Jay-Z grew up) and the Bushwick projects and the kids I hear rapping around there are all talking about getting money. It's easy to say that someone shouldn't be obsessed with money if you never had to struggle for it but if you live with your 4 brothers and Mom and sleep in the kitchen, it's a bit easier to understand. For a lot of these kids, rapping is the only route they see to get out of poverty. It's sad to me because I would much rather see them focusing on education or being entrepreneurs but most go to horrible schools, couldn't pay for college and couldn't get a bank loan because they live in the wrong neighborhood. Most of these kids have only seen people in their communities get real money through drug dealing, rap and pro sports. The reason so many rappers talk about this stuff is because it's real life to them. It might not be for you but it is for a lot of people. If you came from that and suddenly you get a hit record and make some money it's a tremendous victory, the chains and cars are a symbol of that. The kids coming up listen to that music because it inspires them.

I'm not even saying I agree with it, I think it's fucked up, but it's fucked up because the racial economic divide if fucked up, because poverty is fucked up. I have a very close friend who's a rapper from LA who came up in Compton in the 80's. He saw firsthand the destruction of the gang wars and the crack epidemic and would regularly pass by a dead body on his way home from school. He doesn't rap about guns or money or gangs or anything like that, and I have respect for him that can't even be measured. That's one of the most amazing things about the project blowed guys (of which he is one). I wish more kids could come up and spread a more positive message, but it's really culturally arrogant of me, as a middle class white dude to sit in my comfy loft and dismiss the other kids who are just telling it like it is.