Ableton Forum

I want linux support and think that many of the paying LIVE users NEED to request this, and i clarify why :

1 - The market is changing, windows is now less than 90% of the market of desktop OS, MACOSX is growing and.......LINUX is growing, ubuntu is a great distro and is changing many minds...

2 - Mac is not the same, Apple dropped powerPC and now run in a intel chipset, lost reliability to gain market share

3 - MacOSX is a UNIX !!!! the port to LINUX is just a re-compile work, at least in theory, exceptions will be resolved simply, IMHO justify the effort.

4 - Ableton has today an software that is unique, there is no other software in the same area, if ableton not do this, SOMEONE WILL, and in that time, ableton will not be the first, will lose market share.

5 - TODAY, I see LIVE as the ONLY software that not runs on linux and has no equivalent, all other stuff has linux equivalent, Office, Music Players, Browsers, etc. If ableton close your eyes to linux, when someone (a company perhaps) launch a software like live for linux, BEFORE ableton, will get many users that will kick off LIVE not because the other software is better, but simply because they will NEED and WANT to user linux and kick the ass of MS and APPLE.

Now I ask everyone in this forum :

CAN ABLETON LOSE USERS BECAUSE OF AN OS THAT IT´S NOT WANT TO SUPPORT?

If Ableton not consider Linux in future plans for LIVE, it´s just leaving the room open to other companies that will do it faster, and steal let´s say.. 10% of his users, and 10% is a BIG beggining for a new software on a not explored platform.

Just my cents...

rsaulo wrote:3 - MacOSX is a UNIX !!!! the port to LINUX is just a re-compile work, at least in theory, exceptions will be resolved simply, IMHO justify the effort.

Seeing as Live once worked on OS 9, I'm guessing it's still a Carbon app where that's relevant. There might be a tiny bit of Cocoa in it these days, and of course Ableton have made their bespoke UI framework and audio engine, etc., but still it's mostly coded against Apple APIs. There is most likely not a single function call in Live that interfaces directly with the UNIX API layers in Mac OS X. Most OS X software is like this, coded against Apple's proprietary APIs.

Live is obviously very portable and well-written software (running fine with full file format compatibility on both big and little endian systems, and with little-to-no difference between the Old Mac, OS X and Windows versions), but there's no way that making it run on Linux doesn't involve adding yet another OS interface underneath to access things like the file system, audio devices and the windowing system, because that's where the OS is relevant. It's probably a lot easier for Ableton than it would be for e.g. Apple to port Logic, but it is most certainly not a recompile. MacLive isn't a UNIX app.

I see more and more people and whole companies shifting to Linux. So, it's worth doing.

Daim wrote:i cannot imagine a guy like this running live

what you mean i seen him last night playing a live show in panorama bar.

audiofeen wrote:

Daim wrote:i cannot imagine a guy like this running live

what you mean i seen him last night playing a live show in panorama bar.

that is a cool look for a band of computer musicians. Half-mast trousers. Sticky tape on the spec's. Shoulder straps on the ancient laptop, converted to a MIDI controller.
Shit - that's a great idea, I say we start that band on this forum, create the songs using Lives new collaboration feature and then ANYONE can perform as the band as long as they dress like this.

suggestions on band-names?

The Distro's ?
The Free BSDs ?
Slackware ?
The Consoles?

D.O.S.

I'm running the latest Live 7 in Ubuntu 8.10 using WINE right now. Performance isn't great, but it works, except the window insists on being a few hundred pixels taller than my screen, so I can't access the bottom of the clip/instrument view. Any ideas? I've tried making WINE emulate a desktop but it's not helping.

Also, all dialog windows (including the prefs) show up empty.

sorry am not on linnux but have you tried reducing the screen resolution
in the windows settings to make the screen smaller.

Angstrom wrote:

audiofeen wrote:

Daim wrote:i cannot imagine a guy like this running live

what you mean i seen him last night playing a live show in panorama bar.

that is a cool look for a band of computer musicians. Half-mast trousers. Sticky tape on the spec's. Shoulder straps on the ancient laptop, converted to a MIDI controller.
Shit - that's a great idea, I say we start that band on this forum, create the songs using Lives new collaboration feature and then ANYONE can perform as the band as long as they dress like this.

suggestions on band-names?

The Distro's ?
The Free BSDs ?
Slackware ?
The Consoles?

add some mexican wrestling masks and i'm in


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lol

now you asked for it.......

suggestions on band-names?

The Distro's ?
The Free BSDs ?
Slackware ?
The Consoles?

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audiofeen wrote:There's no place like 127.1.1.1

Not true. There's ::1...

I want to have Ableton 8 to be able to support linux without any bugs.
Apple and microsoft just want to take over the world.

Give back the power to the people

fhyio wrote:I want to have Ableton 8 to be able to support linux without any bugs.
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you forgot "world peace" and "ice cream for everyone"

If Ableton for some reason added Linux, I'd hate to be in tech support. Just getting all the audio and device drivers to work under Linux, if even possible, would be a nightmare. Is the graphics library that Ableton uses even available in Linux?