TrackTeam Audio-Monomulator for PadKontrol-*Source Included*

friend_kami · Post by **friend_kami** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:01 pm

mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote:
friend_kami wrote:umm.. a quick question: think i can use this with a keyboard (qwerty) going through a translator? if so, im gonna start building a case right now

Basically the whole app is just a Big Translator so i dont see why you wouldnt be able to. To me the light feedback is pretty important though...

well i agree, but if you dont have a pk, what to do :p

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:46 am

bigbadotis wrote:So, I'm having a lot of fun with this, but I'm a little confused about how the volume knobs work on the PK.

It seems like the knobs are supposed to send MIDI, which you then configure MLR to receive using the options menu. But, does the PK actually send midi when it is in Native Mode? Out of what port? Does it send the messages for the PK scene you have selected before you go into Native mode? Or does it send out some type of default?

I guess I need to read up on Native mode some more.... but any help until then is appreciated.

In Native Mode, The PK sends out Sysex for every control out of Port 1. It also sends out NoteOns/Offs out via Port 2. Monomulator just receives he sysex out of Port 1, so techincally you can still grab the pad noteons/offs out of port 2. Native mode will send out the same SYSEX no matter which preset you were using prior to triggering it. Unfortunately theres not much out there on Native mode, Most of the stuff that i found was posted by Fat Elvis on the Korg Forums, there is also a newer PDF that explains some of the sysex strings out there and i believe its linked on the Korg Forums.
The way monomulator works with MIDI on OSX is that:
- it accepts the SYSEX for The knobs, XY Pad, and sends them out of a virtual MIDI port which you can specify in the Monomulator app.
- it accepts the SYSEX for some of the buttons and sends them out of a virtual MIDI portwhich you can specify in the Monomulator app.
I did it this way so you can just send the knobs,XY and extra buttons out to Live instead of to MLR. I usually use MLR rewired into Live...
Hope that helps...

-!

dubbeldutch · Post by **dubbeldutch** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:06 pm

Hey, the trackteamaudio forum is down.

Is there any way I can get the monumulator for the mac? Just got my padkontrol in this weekend. If any one has a d/l link, or can email it, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

fingerprince · Post by **fingerprince** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:09 pm

Sites up ok for me

dubbeldutch · Post by **dubbeldutch** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:57 pm

the site works fine, but the forum (where they posted the d/l link to the monomulator app) is down. No one seems to be responding from their team. If ANYONE has this and can send it to me, again I would really appreciate it.

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:31 pm

Sorry about the trouble with the download. The Forum is indeed down, don't know if it is salvageable at this point. Thanks for your patience...

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:40 am

Just added the Max/MSP source files to the monomulator download. So if anyone wants to tinker/customize the code for their set up - grab it from the trackteam forum:
http://www.trackteamaudio.com/forum/php ... .php?t=131

Beware, the code is very sloppy, but if you have any questions about it, just ask at the trackteam forum and i will happily answer...

So, Just got the forum back up. Unfortunately all of the users who signed up to get Monomulator will have to sign up again, the DB to the forum was lost and the last time it was backed up was right before the mod.pk section was added. very sorry about that.

Michael @ TrackTeam

daniel_grieff · Post by **daniel_grieff** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:33 am

Hey there, I have a couple of questions if anyone here could spare me the time to indulge!
Ive been looking into the MLR software and it looks like exactly what I want to be using in terms of live looping/manipulation of audio. But I cant find a few exact details online as yet, so I havent gone and brought a padKontrol just yet.
Specifically, I need to know if MLR will sync up perfectly with live via rewire with tempo/time sig. changes. Does the number of steps in each sequence reduce if you go from 4/4 to 3/4 for example?
Also, I read you can record live audio on the fly in MLR, but to what length is incoming audio quantised to? I mean, can i only record 2 bar loops for example, or would this be controllable with my Behringer FCB101 pedal (which would be awesome)?
One last thing, I have other instruments plugged into my soundcard that i wouldnt want to run through MLR, is there anyway Id be able to achieve this? Maybe sending audio from live to MLR?
I hope somebody can help me out here!

Thanks,

Dan

stutter · Post by **stutter** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:24 am

thanks for the source. Just getting into Max.
Had to re-register at your site for some reason... no problems after that.

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:27 am

@ Stutter
The Monome is so open ended that it doesnt make sense to not include the source.
This is a pretty simple patch. So its a nice way to work yourself into Max.

@daniel_grieff

Tempo Sync - kind of, depends how tight you want your timing
Time Sig - Dont know

On the standard version of MLR there isnt any quantisation for Recording audio. You can control it with any MIDI controller or your PK.

You can send Audio from Live to MLR via Rewire &
You can send Audio from to MLR to Live via Rewire but your going to have to work out what goes where...
Id say go to the monome site. Theres a "Fake Monome" patch there, it will let you try out MLR. I say play around with MLR. See if it lets you do what you want. Also, look into Molar. Pretty much MLR as a VST.

daniel_grieff · Post by **daniel_grieff** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:05 pm

Hey again,
Sorry to keep asking n00b questions, but I have a PadKontrol now and Im having a little trouble running the monomulator app.
I get the following error when opening:
Patcher:missing arguments for message 'close'
udpreceiver binding to port 8080

Obviously, I have no idea what this means, but my best guess is that monomulator is failing to run my PK in native mode.
Anybody else had this? Am i missing something blindingly obvious?

Thanks again,

Dan

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:49 am

Not a problem at all but I Need a bit more info...

What OS are you using? If your running windows you need to have Quicktime installed. This is a requirement for Max MSP...
Is the app triggering native mode? You can tell by looking at the LCD, it should flash - "monomulator" across it. Do you have your MIDI Ports set right? have you read the Documentation? It was just updated with...

Mike

daniel_grieff · Post by **daniel_grieff** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:02 pm

Hey Mike thanks for sticking with me here.
Im using OS X (10.4.11), quicktime is definitely installed if that makes a difference on mac.
Just as an update, i have managed to get monomulator to put my PK into native mode. "monomulator" does indeed flash across the LCD now.
But thats as far as it goes, I cant seem to 'run' MLR, despite the fact that everything seems set up correctly according to the documentation. Ill double check the MIDI again though.
For what its worth, Ive tried running farmpad as well, which also puts the PK into native mode. It seems to run fine, but the command line commands make no difference to the program at all. I have a feeling these two things might be connected somehow, but Im not entirely sure how.
Pray to god my PK isnt faulty, everything else seems to run fine, is there some way I can test this?

Thanks again!

Dan

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:44 am

OK. So Farm pad works or doesnt? Ive never tried it so i dont know much about it.
So, It triggers native mode, flashing Lights, then nothing?

Try this to see if the PK is sending anything...

Open Monomulator and then Live. Set the Rotary and XY outputs to something that is accepting MIDI in Live, Like "from Monomulator". You could use the IAC bus also, it doesnt matter.
Play with the XY pad and the rotaries, see if they show up in Lives MIDI In monitor up in the tope right corner.
If they do then you dont have a defected PK. If not, dont know.
Also, do you have the Max Runtime installed? You should use the latest version because it has the UDP stuff.
Lastly you should open up MLR with the Max Runtime, posssibly try downloading it again....
Def want to get you going with this Daniel, definately lots of fun and also nice to see a new type of workflow with MLR...

daniel_grieff · Post by **daniel_grieff** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:59 pm

Hey Mike, thanks for sticking with me here man, youre a gent!
Well, I have farmpad working 100% now, Ive also managed to get PK-Squared by Covert ops to work 100% as well. Both of these apps utilise native mode, so that clearly works...
Also, Im able to send MIDI to and from MLR, I can work the faders in MLR using the knobs on the PK, for example.
SO, the only thing that doesnt work is the basic sequencer functioning. I heard that spacebar plays the sequencer, I havent made this happen yet.
I get the feeling it is human error, so its probably the case that only I can correct my silly theoretical mistakes somewhere, but thanks for trying man!

Dan