The painter joke was decent though.
Seriously, I would NEVER say that painters and construction workers have better people skills. You cannot imagine the crazy shit I've heard from coworkers!
There is a reason I started my own business, believe me.
The point, again, for the last time, was that the basic attitude of people from desk jobs that I see most of the time is that decorum is half the battle. Construction workers are much more base. Case in point, I moved to Portland for a while, and in that year more than four times I was asked if I wanted to step outside and go toe to toe. Granted in one case I deserved it, but the rest were angry pissed off rednecks probably strung out on something (meth). I wouldn't say that construction workers have better people skills, just that abusive language, or conversely a decent vocabulary are the last things I, and other blue collar types are likely to judge you on. In most cases it's the same as any other human, it's whether you drink their brand of bear, or are into the same tunes, and sports, but IMO I think it's much less likely that office workers allow things to get as ugly.
Crews of drywall, painting, electrical etc. are often comprised of 20-40 workers, on 10 to 30 jobs, and switch up constantly. This allows for retarded amounts of long standing beefs. Not saying that office jobs don't have those, just that it tends to not be like me and this one piece of work white trash bonehead.. "My dad was a Hells Angel!"...
... with him talking shit about me to the owner of the company, and me walking right up to him and saying "Look, I don't like you, you don't like me, it's that simple!"
Now translate that over to me and you. You like guys like mbreqs and nebula who tend to have good people skills, in that they are careful not to step over certain lines etc. You had your issues with b0unce and leisuremuffin, who no doubt share a good amount of the same politics as you, but do not have the same approach to casual conversation. You actually get upset about semantics, and often, at least in my case, it doesn't seem like you're reading what I write, just firing at random. Jesus fuck do I have to write an essay for you every time TD?
Plus, the point is completely covered up with bullshit semantic nit picking, being that mbreqs can have a decent conversational style all he wants, but he loses me when he uses jingoistic sloganeering like "islamofascist" to describe the target of his hatred. I fail to see how I can learn from anybody who thinks in such stark black and white terms. I can be amused by them, in much the same way that real thugs, and skinheads are amusing to me, but to actually think that any amount of intellectual dodging and parrying is going to hide the simple mindedness of that ideology is your bag I guess? I can't be privy to it.
And just to sink in how little you know what kind of person I am, one of my best friends is a christian republican, well, after GWB & Co. killing the economy, he's more of a libertarian / screw politics in general kind of guy.
... At the risk of this seeming like a personal attack.. it just seems to me that he had an some other agenda before joining up.. i really can't get past the picture of his set up in Afghanistan with the 9mill sitting on the desk.. i dunno.. maybe i'm just a wee bit to sensitive 
