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Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:26 pm
by Rationalizer
glitchrock-buddha wrote:I'm not crazy about the whole tagging thing either. Would rather direct browsing.
I really like the tagging style. And it doesn't take so long in the end. Direct browsing can be done with the software, so that's also covered.

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:46 am
by starving student
x0b wrote:
starving student wrote:
x0b wrote:this backwards tagging nonsense that forces you to catalog your samples.
classic
i know you fanboys won't hear a bad word said against it, but none of you can offer any advice as to what i'm doing wrong, just smarmy comments.

my sample library is already organised the way i want it, maschine forces me to do it all again the way it wants it.
umm my library spans teras, being organized doesn't make tagging harder it makes it easier, if you feel differently I won't argue with you, but for calling me a maschine fanboy I will :lol:

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:58 am
by humnumb
Maschine's tagging system is awesome! I love having all my favorite sounds a button push and a knob turn away, all organized exactly how I want!

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:55 am
by starving student
thats what I'm sayin it's like the very definition of tag in this context is make it how you want it
but he said maschine is forcing something on him,

anyway if the tagging system isn't working correctly or you want something added to it definitely go to maschines forum and put in a user request because ni are good about knocking out the easy ones

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:24 pm
by starving student
copying anything in maschine is so easy it will give you the giggles, and yes from the hardware.

never tried from a 'live' controller but any controller thats got a midi out on it then yes.

for stuff other than grooves yes. basicly its a sampler and you can do anything to samples, modulate them, effect them, stepsequence them, stepsequence the fx on them, chop them up in little pieces, pitch them, .........(not straight forward time stretch) (but theres even ways to time stretch them)

you can def use it like a synth if you like to do that kind of thing with samplers

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:24 pm
by 2be
ShelLuser wrote:- Can you copy groups from the controller?
Yes, it's a matter of holding "duplicate", pressing the group you want to copy, and then pressing the (empty) group you want to copy to.
ShelLuser wrote:- Is a "Maschine sound" also playable using another Live controller ?
Yes, I use to Live to apply MIDI effects to my keyboard, then send it to the Maschine software. No problem.

ShelLuser wrote:- Looking at Maschine "beyond grooving", how realistic is that ?
Totally realistic if you are not into complex classic arrangements.
I actually prefer using the Maschine to program basslines, as I really like the response of the pads.
Playing chords as actual MIDI notes is a bit akward with the pads, but you can always sample chords and map them to the pads for instant fun.

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:59 am
by humnumb

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:28 am
by Rationalizer
Was the video fake? He could've sampled the glitches but on the video he is triggering same pads for sounds and glitches.

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:44 am
by Rationalizer
Yeah, I also have Komplete (and Maschine) but I don't think that envelopes are the whole truth here. He's not using Maschine in midi mode, that's for sure (that way he could've triggered the FINGER or similar glitch effect).

I still suspect that the video is fake. But then again, maybe someone has more info on this?

EDIT: oh, and the video description said that everything was made with maschine. So does he use the grain delay with pitch to have the glitch effect?

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:13 pm
by The Carpet Cleaner
You are shit guys. So easy to do the same thing.
I should make a video of the samples I got, it's fucking easy to do the same thing, jamming with some glichy samples, and there you go, you got a HIT. !!!
BTW, I'm drunk.

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:11 pm
by Rationalizer
The Carpet Cleaner wrote: BTW, I'm drunk.
Cheers! Image

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:27 pm
by delicioso
It's not fake. One of the things that Maschine does that not many people know about is that you can use it as a multi-effects step sequencer like Sugar Bytes Effectrix or Glitch:
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... p?t=124999

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:58 pm
by 2be
While I was aware of outsourcing your effects to another group, I never thought to use that for live glitching. This is awesome!

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:33 am
by yup yup
i was a little intimidated by this thing when i first came across it. was just about to drop $1500 on a machinedrum. i think i might save myself $1000 and get on board with the maschine. sounds too good to be true 8O

Re: The Maschine & Ableton Love Thread ;) [upon user request]

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:11 pm
by squelcht
yup yup wrote:i was a little intimidated by this thing when i first came across it. was just about to drop $1500 on a machinedrum. i think i might save myself $1000 and get on board with the maschine. sounds too good to be true 8O
My exact intentions...But I also used an Akai as a main machine in the past. Getting Maschine is like woking on a Akai again but on steroids. Totally changed my work flow. I use Maschine in standalone & have Live slaved to it. Better control over Maschine this way rather it running as a plugin IMOH. Do it---You will not be dissapointed. But make sure you get the FULL version & not a EDU version in case it isn't your thing. You can resale a FULL version license from Native Instruments but not a EDU. It's a gamble because you find EDU versions cheap online & some retailers doesn't require proof of being in school etc. (i.e. E-Bay) 8)