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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:10 am
by Mr Mowgli
people always buy into the 'hes gonna chnage the world' hes not. lol
Thank god we dont have some redneck inbred for pres anymore tho..
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:13 am
by jeskola
Emissary wrote:elxicano wrote:Emissary wrote:congrats on having your first bi-racial president america. Its not going to change anything though. same old same old.
Bla, bla, bla... Emissary, you are the George Bush of the forums. Go get em' tiger! Nothing like a preemptive strike! "Let's all save time and complain about how bad things are before he even gets started!" WooHoo!
Nothing but love for you, Emissary!
sorry for being a downer, i just dont see how he is going to "change" anything. Just as much as Mcains was a saggy sack of putrid goo, Obama is a balloon of concentrated helium. i will judge his time as president after the fact not before it. I hope he "changes" things but i see no proof that he will in anything he has said. It will be interesting to see how he copes with the huge international incident a few weeks after his inauguration .
In better times i think he would be a very good president - just a shame he's left with such a mess. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next 12 months once he's settled in and the hype dies down. A lot of what happens now is out with his control (i mean the state of the world economy).
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:29 am
by Crash
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:43 am
by Meef Chaloin
can we STFU now?!
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:59 am
by forge
Emissary wrote:elxicano wrote:Emissary wrote:congrats on having your first bi-racial president america. Its not going to change anything though. same old same old.
Bla, bla, bla... Emissary, you are the George Bush of the forums. Go get em' tiger! Nothing like a preemptive strike! "Let's all save time and complain about how bad things are before he even gets started!" WooHoo!
Nothing but love for you, Emissary!
sorry for being a downer, i just dont see how he is going to "change" anything. Just as much as Mcains was a saggy sack of putrid goo, Obama is a balloon of concentrated helium. i will judge his time as president after the fact not before it. I hope he "changes" things but i see no proof that he will in anything he has said. It will be interesting to see how he copes with the huge international incident a few weeks after his inauguration .
some times you just have to switch off the cyncial Victor Meldrew miserable bastard side of yourself and just enjoy the party and optimism once in a while
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:01 am
by Low Frequency Obstinator
Why has it taken 20+ years to actualy 'get up & stand up'?
Lets hope the age of apathy has truly ended.
Big respect to all the Americans that voted, hope the rest of the world tales inspiration from this.
..............................
Now, as Meef so eloquently put it:
STFU and make some tuneage.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:23 am
by sporkles
This is all quite amazing. I wasn't exactly holding my breath this time - I've
learnt to expect the American voters to disappoint me in the deciding
hours, despite positive polls. This time they came through, big time,
though
I'm no essentialist, but it really feels awesome that the U.S. finally
managed to break out of the white, male president pattern. (In fact; isn't
he the first black head of state in the entire West? Hah - back at the
vanguard, eh? Finally some real progressive moves in the US). Obama
apparently has what it takes to mobilise the significant, disillusioned (and
normally) non-voting masses.
Small step / giant leap, etc. When the US gets its first lesbian, atheist 1/2
Afro American / 1/2 Hispanic President, we're there
Good bye and good riddance to Bush. Good luck to Obama!
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:27 am
by Emissary
forge wrote:Emissary wrote:elxicano wrote:
Bla, bla, bla... Emissary, you are the George Bush of the forums. Go get em' tiger! Nothing like a preemptive strike! "Let's all save time and complain about how bad things are before he even gets started!" WooHoo!
Nothing but love for you, Emissary!
sorry for being a downer, i just dont see how he is going to "change" anything. Just as much as Mcains was a saggy sack of putrid goo, Obama is a balloon of concentrated helium. i will judge his time as president after the fact not before it. I hope he "changes" things but i see no proof that he will in anything he has said. It will be interesting to see how he copes with the huge international incident a few weeks after his inauguration .
some times you just have to switch off the cyncial Victor Meldrew miserable bastard side of yourself and just enjoy the party and optimism once in a while
I am not cynical , just a realist. I have plenty of joy and excitement in my life to not be overly hyped and excited about someone who has yet to have achieved anything. In 4 years if America has reduced its national debt, stopped borrowing money from the rest of the world to buy products off the rest of the world, brought its troops home and begins to act like a country rather than a tyrannical empire then i will eat my hat. Unfortunately the mass hysteria that seems to be spreading over the world about Commander Obama and his "change" is more dangerous than 8 years of Bush (and thats saying something)
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:31 am
by forge
Tarekith wrote:
Seriously though, does this mean I no longer have to listen to America bashing on the Ableton forums? Really?
Yes. Yes it does.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:39 am
by Emissary
forge wrote:Tarekith wrote:
Seriously though, does this mean I no longer have to listen to America bashing on the Ableton forums? Really?
Yes. Yes it does.
as long as america actually "changes" and its not all just empty rhetoric then yes. Unfortunately i fail see to one drop of evidence of this promised "change" can someone enlighten me?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:44 am
by brightonalex
If you can change.. then I can change... we can all change!
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:50 am
by noisetonepause
Emissary wrote:Unfortunately i fail see to one drop of evidence of this promised "change" can someone enlighten me?
Yeah. America elects a married, Christian lawyer from a middle class background. California bans gay marriage.
Let's just say I'm not celebrating.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:50 am
by Emissary
brightonalex wrote:If you can change.. then I can change... we can all change!
yes we can, we can change, change we can , yes change, let us change, what is change ? yes it was, can with change and yes and what and......
so your going to bring the troops home from abroad obama?
so your going to abolish the federal reserve obama?
so your going to stop the cia running drugs obama?
so your going to stop poisoning your people obama?
so your going to stop centralisation of power obama?
so your going to reduce the national debt obama?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:55 am
by fatrabbit
McCain concession speech was interesting - why didn't he run like that the whole time? The guy really had some bad advisors!
Amazingly historic night. I read in The Times that inter-racial marriages were "illegal" in Virginia only 40 years ago... and Obama wins it!
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:56 am
by fatrabbit
It's you're FFS.