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Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:31 pm
by SubFunk
the glass issue is easy and many people can do that our days, once you hit the self resonating frequency of an object, that's it. no big issue
and with glass that is super easy to do...
only issue is that if you use your voice you need to have a lot of power... and able to 'hold' a certain frequency range for a longer time.
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:32 pm
by dom
SubFunk wrote:SubFunk wrote:
- There's nothing like a forbidden loudspeaker design Yes there is: the motor speakers originally designed for testing helicopter constructions, ok probaly not the design is forbidden, but the commercial use, because of health issues is forbidden, you simply don't get them anymore...
There's just no such law and therefore they're not forbidden. Easy, huh? :)
then please get me one... hire or buy, easy huh?
Lol, you debate like Timur when proven technically wrong, winding and winding :-)
If i doubt there's such a law, and you are sure that it exists, why don't you just show it to me?
Cheers,
Dom
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:33 pm
by dom
SubFunk wrote:the glass issue is easy and many people can do that our days, once you hit the self resonating frequency of an object, that's it. no big issue
and with glass that is super easy to do...
only issue is that if you use your voice you need to have a lot of power... and able to 'hold' a certain frequency range for a longer time.
Yupp, full ack, well, besides "super easy to do" :) But absolutely possible, yes...
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:34 pm
by SubFunk
and damn i really like to put you under just for 20minutes of 160db -170db of lower frequency sound...
just to 'feel' it once.
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:35 pm
by SubFunk
dom wrote:SubFunk wrote:the glass issue is easy and many people can do that our days, once you hit the self resonating frequency of an object, that's it. no big issue
and with glass that is super easy to do...
only issue is that if you use your voice you need to have a lot of power... and able to 'hold' a certain frequency range for a longer time.
Yupp, full ack, well, besides "super easy to do"

But absolutely possible, yes...
easy, i mean now with technology...
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:42 pm
by dom
I would definitely try that! My personal bungee jumping!
And the thing with the glass is something we should try once!
I'm curious if it's easily possible to do a slow sweep with operator to find the resonance frequency...
The level should be achievable with a descent speaker, don't you think?
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:43 pm
by ethios4
^^ that list....

WOW!
Fascinating little back and forth you guys are having!

Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:44 pm
by SubFunk
Lol, you debate like Timur when proven technically wrong, winding and winding

If i doubt there's such a law, and you are sure that it exists, why don't you just show it to me?
Cheers,
Dom
have i ever said it's a written law i can show you?
no i said there are forbidden... so, if available today, get me one, very easy!
i for example would not know where to find the written law that says you are not allowed to built an atom bomb yourself and distribute and use it as you like, still all those 3 things are forbidden. or simply get me one, i take two.
one for dropping onto the states and one spare, please.
so where is my original US army motor bass?, i want to open a club again

Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:46 pm
by SubFunk
dom wrote:I would definitely try that! My personal bungee jumping!
And the thing with the glass is something we should try once!
I'm curious if it's easily possible to do a slow sweep with operator to find the resonance frequency...
The level should be achievable with a descent speaker, don't you think?
yes! with a decent speaker, like a Meyer UPA or T series D&B really close... and a sweep...
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:48 pm
by dom
Ethois: It's super interesting stuff, i hope you don't mind me and Axel discussing berlin styleee :)
Check this for the whole list:
http://www.makeitlouder.com/Decibel%20Level%20Chart.txt
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:18 pm
by ethios4
^^ Wow, amazing, thanks!
310 (N)KRAKATOA VOLCANO ERUPTION-1883 A.D., CRACKED ONE FOOT THICK CONCRETE
AT 300 MILES, CREATED A 3000 FOOT TIDAL WAVE, HEARD 3100 MILES AWAY,
SOUND PRESSURE CAUSED BAROMETERS TO FLUCTUATE WILDLY AT 100 MILES
INDICATING LEVELS OF AT LEAST 170-190 DB (P) AT THIS DISTANCE OF 100 MILES

Amazing!
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:32 pm
by 3phase
SubFunk wrote:the glass issue is easy and many people can do that our days, once you hit the self resonating frequency of an object, that's it. no big issue
and with glass that is super easy to do...
only issue is that if you use your voice you need to have a lot of power... and able to 'hold' a certain frequency range for a longer time.
easy? in 25 years i only once had a singer in the studio that could do it..my cmv suffered!! and thewindows was shattering..
the loudest woman alive...except babara streisand
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:00 pm
by outershpongolia
Could have sworn there is a mythbusters episode where they try to crack this myth and I remember them cracking the glass with a speaker but I'm not sure if it was their voice or what.. They also tried to blow a candle out with the sound waves.
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:09 pm
by Tone Deft
first time I've opened this thread...
Depeche Mode and Macs huh?
wh'happened?
IIRC Mythbusters shattered a glass with vocals but couldn't blow out the candle. the brown note is a myth and you get better mileage if you leave the tailgate of your pickup truck up, not down.
Re: Depeche Mode: so macs reliable enough to use in stadiums...?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:50 pm
by bodhi71
The brown note?
Isn't that something Eddie Van Halen jams?....