Samplitude user disses Live as 'shit for mixing in' at GS

[diskowipe]

something else to consider is for all of you naysayers to look inside yourselves

these types of threads get more hits on the forums than any others by triple at least. what does that mean?

it means that even though you talk shit, you all still care about this topic even if you say the same "i want scientific proof" bullshit everytime

but the bottom line is that this is still an obvious interest to alot of people out there, i cant help but think if enough people were completely satisfied with what they are doing, these threads would just dissapear. but its the opposite

you guys are obviously all still looking for something

[kb420]

dude, they all will hear it. reading the fucking gearslutz threads that are posted here and read what some of those people say and look at who they are in real life... there's your "best ears in the industry"

however i dont think it takes the best ears to hear it unfortunately for you

and when did people start needing proof beyond just their ears? that blows me away

Hearing can be very subjective. That's why. Your ears can deceive you.

PLACEBO!

[diskowipe]

dude, they all will hear it. reading the fucking gearslutz threads that are posted here and read what some of those people say and look at who they are in real life... there's your "best ears in the industry"

however i dont think it takes the best ears to hear it unfortunately for you

and when did people start needing proof beyond just their ears? that blows me away

Hearing can be very subjective. That's why. Your ears can deceive you.

PLACEBO!

NFL FOOTBALL!!!!!

[kb420]

something else to consider is for all of you naysayers to look inside yourselves

these types of threads get more hits on the forums than any others by triple at least. what does that mean?

it means that even though you talk shit, you all still care about this topic even if you say the same "i want scientific proof" bullshit everytime

but the bottom line is that this is still an obvious interest to alot of people out there, i cant help but think if enough people were completely satisfied with what they are doing, these threads would just dissapear. but its the opposite

you guys are obviously all still looking for something

People are looking for the truth. Something that can be proven scientifically. Something that assures them that what they think they are hearing isn't placebo.

[kb420]

dude, they all will hear it. reading the fucking gearslutz threads that are posted here and read what some of those people say and look at who they are in real life... there's your "best ears in the industry"

however i dont think it takes the best ears to hear it unfortunately for you

and when did people start needing proof beyond just their ears? that blows me away

Hearing can be very subjective. That's why. Your ears can deceive you.

PLACEBO!

NFL FOOTBALL!!!!!

SEASON'S TICKETS!!!!!

[4/4]

I would think that the DAW user would work with the DAW to make DAW 'x' and DAW 'y' come to the same result of a good sounding song. while the same automation wouldn't sound the same with two DAWs, the user would hopefully be keen enough to still produce a good output.

That's it right there, that's what it's all about!

That makes sense too.
But still leaves the door open for truths like "it's easier to get it sounding more X on host Y than it is on host Z, cuz of da automation rampin lyke."

[kb420]

I would think that the DAW user would work with the DAW to make DAW 'x' and DAW 'y' come to the same result of a good sounding song. while the same automation wouldn't sound the same with two DAWs, the user would hopefully be keen enough to still produce a good output.

That's it right there, that's what it's all about!

That makes sense too.
But still leaves the door open for truths like "it's easier to get it sounding more X on host Y than it is on host Z, cuz of da automation rampin lyke."

What it does is definitely makes it harder to even the playing field in a null test with multiple DSP functions.

[diskowipe]

http://www.solid-state-logic.com/users/all/sasha.asp

“Everything was written in Live and at the mix stage we use Logic as the host,” explains Barry. “We Rewired the outputs of Live into Logic which became our glorified internal patchbay. It just sounds better because there’s something about Live, when it sums stuff to its own output, that is a bit odd. It sounds kind of two-dimensional. So we’d sculpted each sound in each track in Live with the outboard gear to get it as close as dammit as we could [to what they wanted] and then used Logic’s EQ just to nip and tuck things to get the mix to knit together well. So if we had 40 tracks in Live we’d have 40 Rewire channels going into Logic, so there might be 40 channels in Logic with a bit of EQ. We’d use Logic’s effects, Altiverb, and Fabfilter plug-ins for the final little touches on the mix stage.”

[mr.ergonomics]

dude, they all will hear it. reading the fucking gearslutz threads that are posted here and read what some of those people say and look at who they are in real life... there's your "best ears in the industry"

however i dont think it takes the best ears to hear it unfortunately for you

and when did people start needing proof beyond just their ears? that blows me away

you have to prove because of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases.
you can't "just" trust your ears, they are great indicators but nothing more. a blind test is the least you HAVE to do.

[4/4]

What it does is definitely makes it harder to even the playing field in a null test with multiple DSP functions.

how the host treats automation is as important as it's audio engine, in my humble opinion.
the two work together to provide the end result.

[Tone Deft]

something else to consider is for all of you naysayers to look inside yourselves

these types of threads get more hits on the forums than any others by triple at least. what does that mean?

it means that even though you talk shit, you all still care about this topic even if you say the same "i want scientific proof" bullshit everytime

but the bottom line is that this is still an obvious interest to alot of people out there, i cant help but think if enough people were completely satisfied with what they are doing, these threads would just dissapear. but its the opposite

you guys are obviously all still looking for something

in your arguments you state that what people on the web post is bullshit (because of people like me) you also write that what people on the web proves your points. drop that shit.

you've also written that you were done with this thread and admitted that it was fun to troll.

I can decide for myself what sounds good. I'd LOL at someone that would read this thread or any other thread and make their decision on which DAW to use. I would tell them to try all the demos and see which they liked to use the most. a REAL producer could do more with Reaper than you could with your choice of ANY DAW at ANY price point.

[diskowipe]

something else to consider is for all of you naysayers to look inside yourselves

these types of threads get more hits on the forums than any others by triple at least. what does that mean?

it means that even though you talk shit, you all still care about this topic even if you say the same "i want scientific proof" bullshit everytime

but the bottom line is that this is still an obvious interest to alot of people out there, i cant help but think if enough people were completely satisfied with what they are doing, these threads would just dissapear. but its the opposite

you guys are obviously all still looking for something

in your arguments you state that what people on the web post is bullshit (because of people like me) you also write that what people on the web proves your points. drop that shit.

you've also written that you were done with this thread and admitted that it was fun to troll.

I can decide for myself what sounds good. I'd LOL at someone that would read this thread or any other thread and make their decision on which DAW to use. I would tell them to try all the demos and see which they liked to use the most. a REAL producer could do more with Reaper than you could with your choice of ANY DAW at ANY price point.

depends on the source of information. the people with these opinions in the web posts are real deal people. not some douchebag with 18,000 posts and no link to his own music...

[kb420]

What it does is definitely makes it harder to even the playing field in a null test with multiple DSP functions.

how the host treats automation is as important as it's audio engine, in my humble opinion.
the two work together to provide the end result.

I agree 100%. No doubt about it. For a short time I used P5, and the way that it handled simple midi velocity was much different than Sonar, by default.

[4/4]

By the way, massive shout out to my boy leedsquietman for droppin this turd like it's hot.

Next time some other forum's having a MAC v PC debate maybe you could start a thread about it here too ? that would be sweet.

[Tone Deft]

something else to consider is for all of you naysayers to look inside yourselves

these types of threads get more hits on the forums than any others by triple at least. what does that mean?

it means that even though you talk shit, you all still care about this topic even if you say the same "i want scientific proof" bullshit everytime

but the bottom line is that this is still an obvious interest to alot of people out there, i cant help but think if enough people were completely satisfied with what they are doing, these threads would just dissapear. but its the opposite

you guys are obviously all still looking for something

in your arguments you state that what people on the web post is bullshit (because of people like me) you also write that what people on the web proves your points. drop that shit.

you've also written that you were done with this thread and admitted that it was fun to troll.

I can decide for myself what sounds good. I'd LOL at someone that would read this thread or any other thread and make their decision on which DAW to use. I would tell them to try all the demos and see which they liked to use the most. a REAL producer could do more with Reaper than you could with your choice of ANY DAW at ANY price point.

depends on the source of information. the people with these opinions in the web posts are real deal people. not some douchebag with 18,000 posts and no link to his own music...

wow. great point.

nothing but name calling. I like that my lack of tunes in my sig pisses off people like you. it used to drive me to finish songs, now I know I'd rather piss you off than seek your approval. I could also start over with a new name and change my post count, but that also pisses off dimwits like you when they get backed into a corner, it's a sign of weakness. you're scared, you lose. kthxbye.

you didn't address the question and everybody has pretty much refuted your crap. what a n00b argument, grow up.

good luck on your next trolling adventure. try it, we're much better at it and there's more of us than you.