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edit - answered my own question about the Serato approved hardware acts as a dongle.

it's not so much that, it's that I can't use what I already have.

Hidden Driveways wrote:

beats me wrote: Would I invest in DJ specific software that is inferior in many ways to Traktor so I can use session view in it? Fuck no.

You're starting to sound like one of those people who go out of their way to bash Apple computers, because deep down inside you know you really want one...

I was curious how the two programs compare.

Hidden Driveways wrote:

beats me wrote: Would I invest in DJ specific software that is inferior in many ways to Traktor so I can use session view in it? Fuck no.

You're starting to sound like one of those people who go out of their way to bash Apple computers, because deep down inside you know you really want one...

Yeah I can bash with the best of them, but I think this was a big surprise/disappointment to a lot of people, especially considering development time from announcement to release. This probably would have gone over a lot better if they just magically released it with no pre collaboration announcement, a big pleasant surprise. Announcing this a long time ago made a lot of people speculate and dream up ideas and I'm pretty positive nobody was hoping for this end result. Take a cue from Apple, don't talk about something until it's already done.

and the !@$%^Uing max4Live announcement YEARS in advance. are there any more collaborations coming out? maybe a few that we forgot about? didn't they announce a collab with Lotus Notes back in '97?

Tone Deft wrote:


and the !@$%^Uing max4Live announcement YEARS in advance.

M4L is the balls YO! However most of the time I make devices I think, why didn't Ableton make this device YEARS ago. DUH!

So i guess this means my hopes of a motorized jog wheel that attaches to my apc40 where the rubber sides currently are (so that i can get vinyl style control of my clips using serato WITHIN Ableton) isn't going to happen eh?

any way i slice it it's more $$ out of my pocket - only now I'm not sure whose getting the $$ (MAX, Ms. Pinky, Ableton, Serato, Traktor, Vestax, Numark, EKS, or Other).

What gives?! Wasn't NAMM 2010 supposed to be awesome?!

Now i just feel like the kid who got shafted on christmas morning after praying real hard to baby jesus to grant my wishes.

Bad. Bad baby jesus!

Its F*ing awesome if your a dj that uses serato and a producer using ableton, which I am so YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

The bridge seems to be really cool!
And also for free!
Exciting to see it in action!

I wonder why they haven't come up with a NI-collaboration... I mean they are both located in Berlin
The CEOs don't like each other, I suppose.

#1thelark wrote:I wonder why they haven't come up with a NI-collaboration... I mean they are both located in Berlin
The CEOs don't like each other, I suppose.

+1

especially because i don't get a certain rival people put into those two companies, i mean the make totally different products...

ableton is not in the plugin / instrument market and NI not in the sequencer market, and a traktor / ableton collab would have been much better in my eyes.

SubFunk wrote:

#1thelark wrote:I wonder why they haven't come up with a NI-collaboration... I mean they are both located in Berlin
The CEOs don't like each other, I suppose.

+1

especially because i don't get a certain rival people put into those two companies, i mean the make totally different products...

ableton is not in the plugin / instrument market and NI not in the sequencer market, and a traktor / ableton collab would have been much better in my eyes.

I guess "The Bridge" does not refer to "Oberbaum Bruecke"...

The Bridge. Makes you want to jump off one.

8O wrote:

SubFunk wrote:

#1thelark wrote:I wonder why they haven't come up with a NI-collaboration... I mean they are both located in Berlin
The CEOs don't like each other, I suppose.

+1

especially because i don't get a certain rival people put into those two companies, i mean the make totally different products...

ableton is not in the plugin / instrument market and NI not in the sequencer market, and a traktor / ableton collab would have been much better in my eyes.

I guess "The Bridge" does not refer to "Oberbaum Bruecke"...

well, sadly not!

jeeez, the power of those two combined

Go figure...

Ableton HQ - NI HQ = 5km walking distance (even less if you pick the Schillingbrücke )

Ableton HQ - Serato NZ = 17.747 km distance by plane


That should be a lot of money if you need to travel that distance... but I understand Ableton because NZ should be worth a visit or two. Plus they might be afraid of losing jobs if they collaborate with NI. They should avoid that step unless they are in big trouble...

8O wrote:

SubFunk wrote:

#1thelark wrote:I wonder why they haven't come up with a NI-collaboration... I mean they are both located in Berlin
The CEOs don't like each other, I suppose.

+1

especially because i don't get a certain rival people put into those two companies, i mean the make totally different products...

ableton is not in the plugin / instrument market and NI not in the sequencer market, and a traktor / ableton collab would have been much better in my eyes.

I guess "The Bridge" does not refer to "Oberbaum Bruecke"...