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myrnova wrote:As i wrote above:



that is funny, because I was banned after ST (a "nihilist" calling italians "mario") and LSZ (a racist) asked the moderator (american) to ban me (an anarchist, antifascist, antiracist). so called U.S.A. "paradox" (or should I call it "Angloamerican"?)

As you can see, I am right. And mooney, too, of course (in America they call him "a racist" )

myrnova wrote:As i wrote above:



that is funny, because I was banned after ST (a "nihilist" calling italians "mario") and LSZ (a racist) asked the moderator (american) to ban me (an anarchist, antifascist, antiracist). so called U.S.A. "paradox" (or should I call it "Angloamerican"?)

As you can see, I am right. And mooney, too, of course

rote fahne wrote:right in what?

myrnova wrote:

rote fahne wrote:right in what?

I am right regarding the fact when 9 people out of 10 are americans, and the moderator, too... the one bamned is always the 1% (not american), no matter of the fact he is right.

The paradox is in the "ban" of 9V (anarchist, antiracist and antifascist) "because he called obama a nigger" ( ). The same in America, where the call Mooney "a racist"

The day I will be eventually banned again, it is just the proof I am right about american arrogance and "white supremacy" ideology in U.S.A.

The pathetic thing about you is that you are not even american

myrnova wrote:

rote fahne wrote:right in what?

I am right regarding the situation: when 9 people out of 10 are americans, and the moderator, too... the one bamned is always the 1% (not american), no matter of the fact he is right.

The paradox is in the "ban" of 9V (anarchist, antiracist and antifascist) "because he called obama a nigger" ( ). The same happens in America, where they call Mooney "a racist"

The day I will be eventually banned again, it is just the proof I am right about american arrogance and "white supremacy" ideology in U.S.A.

The pathetic thing about you is that you are not even american

H20nly wrote:notice how myrnova is now pointing at others. but none of them used the derogatory racial slur you're trying to wriggle away from.


@ earthloop - it's par for the course in The Lounge these days... all threads will start off as threads do and then myrnova will find a way to inject xenophobic comments into them and/or funken will turn them into a soapbox about Marxism

since this thread was started on the topic of social relevancy, i dare say that, at least this time... we have not strayed too far from the original topic.

earthloop wrote: Much as I respect you H20nly...I have to say that I can't find anything relevant to the 'Social Relevance of Musicians' in the recent posts in this thread.

Funk N. Furter wrote:

beats me wrote:
I’m not entirely blaming you or myrnova. If anything I blame the other people who engage more. “You’re ruining this forum!” There’s nothing stopping them from ignoring people they feel are ruining the forum or starting or participating in other topics.

Here’s 2 recent topics that got completely ignored

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=198922

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=198786

There’s other topics that have gotten ignored but I posted those because until recently they probably would have gotten responded to if people weren’t instead burning a lot of calories slinging the same mud over and over in political threads.

I don’t even care if my topics get ignored. I just see once active members on all sorts of topics coming on here to participate in the ongoing political battles in the top threads and then calling it a day. There’s also plenty of regulars that just said fuck it and left and I’m sure at least part of it is because of the heavy political slant that has become all-consuming on here.

So to that end, no we really don’t need more political topics. By all means start more, but it certainly isn’t lacking.

Don't blame people posting on one thread for nobody bothering to reply to another. I personally answer lots of OPs first, usually people asking questions about Live. There are a million Live users who could have responded to those two threads. Are you telling me nobody could post on them because I was talking to Ballmer on some thread he started?

As for people not posing in the forum at all because of a 'heavy political slant' that is utter nonsense. All they have to do is ignore those threads.

Tell me, where is this 'heavy political slant'? There are 50 threads on the first page of the lounge. I count about 4 political ones. Two genuine, started by Finn, one by John Gordon and one by Ballmer. Personally I am only ever on about 3 threads at a time. I am currently participating in one political thread, which had pretty much fizzled out now anyway. But there are plenty of other Live users besides me. About 2 million in fact. What about them? What about the other 46 threads, just on the first page? In what way does me replying to Ballmer in one thread stop the other 1,999,999 Live users posting on the other threads?

andydes wrote:

earthloop wrote: Much as I respect you H20nly...I have to say that I can't find anything relevant to the 'Social Relevance of Musicians' in the recent posts in this thread.

I would have been interested in the topic too, but it was doomed from the opening post.

I've wondered if it's partly because the more "underground" music these days tends to be the music with no (or few) lyrics. The alternative side of pop has included, reggae, punk, grunge etc. but with techno, dubstep, or whatever the kids are into these days, how much room is there for a message?

That's no excuse for hip hop getting shitter though.

Funk N. Furter wrote:In the the old days they wrote songs like 16 tons or Imagine. Now, they write about bling and hoes.

Musicians used to be interested in social and political movements. On here they call things they don't like 'gay' and think it makes them cool. Any attempt at serious discussion on here is simply ridiculed and reduced to farce by most of the few people who comment. These trolls call the few genuine people on here trolls, like the Nazis called the Jews and communist names before rounding them up.

Judging by this forum, 'musicians' no longer have anything socially relevant to say.

I would welcome debate with people of any views, but there is no debate on here. Name-calling is the only thing offered. It's pathetic. People should be ashamed of themselves. I am ashamed of this forum.

Funk N. Furter wrote:

rote fahne wrote:so this twat wants to tell us we are not allowed to pm the mod for having banned him?

Oi, don't call my mate a twat, dickhead!

Funk N. Furter wrote:

myrnova wrote:

stringtapper wrote:
viewtopic.php?p=1322971#p1322971

There it is ya fuckin' liar.

I wrote:

Obama is considered "a socialist" by conservative americans When he was elected USA media said "this is america, folk: a miracle! even a nigger can become the president: as you can see, this is a real democracy" haha Then on TV he had to say: hey, people! i am not white, but this does not mean i am muslim, or worst an atheist! i am christian, i love the bible, god bless america" haha

Now, this for you is "callin Obama a nigger"?!

Wow! haha Then ban Paul Mooney, too

I don't think he understands English, Myra. He's American you know.