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Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:32 pm
by pinosvalle
I think as MArc75_RLP.
What's really new and exclusive for Push 2?
1) The possibility of editing samples "on the fly".
2) Pads

I think that paying 699€ (or 489€ turning back your Push 1) is totally crazy!

Push 1 is updated with Ableton 9.5, samples pre-listen from browser, 3rd parties VSTs loading from browser, and others...
Also you have the PXT addon from nativeKontrol through User Mode.

I do not understand why people is under-selling their Push 1 units!

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:42 pm
by spagbol
Cos Push 2 is the future, simples.

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:44 pm
by -art-
Yeah Push 1 has a display from like, 1980.

http://gtello.pagesperso-orange.fr/t3200.jpg

Push 2 to me is definitely worth it, for the screen alone. The whole interface has been redesigned to work with this.

Look at Teenage Engineerings OP-1. Amazing little color display, and basically as expensive as Push 2.

You can tell just from watching the videos how it all improves the Push workflow.

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:52 pm
by tom_d
The screen is so damn sexy. I'm not sure I can resist...

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:59 pm
by TomViolenz
[art] wrote:Yeah Push 1 has a display from like, 1980.
Honestly? I kinda like that 8)

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:01 pm
by -art-
TomViolenz wrote:
[art] wrote:Yeah Push 1 has a display from like, 1980.
Honestly? I kinda like that 8)
It reminds me of the original Alien movie

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:11 pm
by Treshell
pinosvalle wrote:I think as MArc75_RLP.
What's really new and exclusive for Push 2?
1) The possibility of editing samples "on the fly".
2) Pads

I think that paying 699€ (or 489€ turning back your Push 1) is totally crazy!

Push 1 is updated with Ableton 9.5, samples pre-listen from browser, 3rd parties VSTs loading from browser, and others...
Also you have the PXT addon from nativeKontrol through User Mode.

I do not understand why people is under-selling their Push 1 units!
New pads, m8

And the price? Well, the display is OLED. That shit ain't cheap.

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:14 pm
by TomViolenz
[art] wrote:
TomViolenz wrote:
[art] wrote:Yeah Push 1 has a display from like, 1980.
Honestly? I kinda like that 8)
It reminds me of the original Alien movie
And me of my clock radio and early digital watches as a child 8)

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:15 pm
by scheffkoch
...the whole color-coding of tracks, notes view and so on is worth the update for me...

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:18 pm
by MArc75_RLP
You can purchase a oled display for 30bugs from every electronic dist, use google.
That hole scrap is a array of buttons and knobs and a display, i guess material costs max. 50-100€.
And compare a midi controller with a stand alone synth sampler, sorry no idea...

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:19 pm
by BoddAH
Actually I really liked the retro-style display of Push.

But I also love the OP-1 style screen of Push 2 so it's probably a good trade. The Push 2 screen IS objectively better.

Can anybody confirm that it's actually an OLED screen? I'd hate to have traded in my Push one for yet another device with a boring LCD screen. :(

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:23 pm
by TomViolenz
MArc75_RLP wrote:You can purchase a oled display for 30bugs from every electronic dist, use google.
That hole scrap is a array of buttons and knobs and a display, i guess material costs max. 50-100€.
No!

I build Midi controllers recently and After Touch capable pads are quite expensive. Especially 64 of them. I think they alone already account for the upper bound on your suggested cost.

Also they didn't use any old OLED, for smartphones or tablets (that's why they are so cheaply available) the format wouldn't fit.

Inform yourself a bit before you spout obvious nonsense.

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:25 pm
by ark
lovelight wrote:anyone knows when the shipping will take place ?
I ordered mine Monday, November 2, in the USA. It shipped Tuesday, November 3.

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:30 pm
by telekom
Mine arrives on Friday. My day off. :) Hold all calls.

Re: Push 2

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:30 pm
by MArc75_RLP
Maybe I am not correct but its a difference if a Boutique maker asking for part prices or company that want to sell 100k and more...