The Kid Beyond Movie is freakin amazing!

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Post by Machinate » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:20 pm

there is no such thing as a stupid question, my man.

The quantize function is the place to look. Page something or other in the manual... And try mousing over the Global Quantization menu at the top - look in the info-view box: "used to avoid rhythmic errors when playing clips". - this also goes for recordings.

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Post by kramer » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:34 pm

hambone1 wrote:While finding Kid Beyond quite talented and creative, I was soon bored with it.

The crappy lo-fi sound didn't help, but I'd find it difficult to watch more than 10 minutes of that.

Kind of a aural circus act, and not doing much more with Live than you could do with any looping device.
Agreed. I think that stuff he's doing is some cheeeeeeeezy stuff. Of course he's more talented tahn me and all that.....but that doesn't make it good to listen to. I can think of clubs down in LA where that guy would probably get boooed off the stage. Gee.....I can't wait for the big wave of electronic beat-boxers that's coming... :roll: :roll: :roll:
Is Bobby McFerrin dead? :?: Has he been told about this? :?:

Am I going to get kicked out of here and be shunned for saying this stuff?
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Post by quandry » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:36 pm

decrepitude wrote:
Machinate wrote: and 4: well, it does that already, if you hit the play button again.
So I have to do it manually (click or engage the clip's play button) with perfect timing? How about doing this automatically?

Sorry if my questions seem stupid...
set global quantize to "bar"--that way, you only have to press you midi pedal anytime during the measure before you want to loop, and it perfectly starts on the one....granted this means that you are recording to Live's tempo and listening to the click on headphones....otherwise, without syncing to Live's tempo, you do have to perfectly time your pedal presses for both start and stop/loop. It is infinitely easier to use the tempo/click method...

here's what I do, search under "quandry" and "live looping" for much more info on my set:

set global quantize to bar, clip update (in prefs) to 1/32
arm track
assing midi pedal to the clip slot you want to loop in (or alternatively in 5 to the tracks slot to allow recording to different scenes using one midi assignmetn)
listen to click on headphones
hit your midi pedal anytime during the measure prior to when you want to record
hit it again during the last measure of you loop that you are recording
done deal, you now have a loop

For live performances, it helps to set up multiple tracks and make lots of midi pedal assignments to have stuff ready to go--you can have midi pedals for arming and unarming tracks, etc...Kid beyond is a bit extreme in his no mouse attitude, and by using Bome's he triggers loops to record at predetermined lengths (two bars, four bars, ...). The same thing can be achieved by pressing one pedal twice at appropriate times. The advantage to the two pedal press method I use is the ability to delete a flubbed clips on the fly (using bomes to translate a midi pedal press into a "delete" keystroke, using Live 3 where "select on launch actually works (search for "select on launch" for more on that issue). Kid's method is automatically going to loop the clip without any means of stopping it if you mess up--apparently he is perfect and doesn't mess up, not me, I screw up all the time!

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Post by Machinate » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:38 pm

quandry wrote:apparently he is perfect and doesn't mess up, not me, I screw up all the time!

Ryan
the music is in the mistakes my man.. it's in the mistakes.
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Post by decrepitude » Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:12 pm

Thanks for the helpful info. I'm gonna get down to business and I'll report back the results. I'll also take your suggestion and read some more of your previous posts.

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Post by quandry » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:59 pm

Machinate wrote:
quandry wrote:apparently he is perfect and doesn't mess up, not me, I screw up all the time!

Ryan
the music is in the mistakes my man.. it's in the mistakes.
Totally! Especially when applying somewhat random effects (supatrigga, liveclip, WTF, etc...) or scrubbing with Live--its all about the Bob Ross style happy accidents.
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