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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:42 am
by forge
longjohns wrote:forge wrote:
set the default in preferences>record/warp/launch to "unwarped one shot"
eh, this doesn't work for me. to be clear, i'm talking about new recorded clips. i've currently got short samples to "unwarped one shot" and auto warp long samples set to OFF
still when i record a new clip, it has warp turned on. i'm using re-pitch so it doesnt really matter but it still seems like there should be some way to make it default to having the warp button off
that must be a bug and you should report it in the bug forum
are you POSITIVE you havent got "warped one shot" selected
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:41 am
by aviavi
I've been requesting looping for unwarped clips since Live 1, but might as well do it again.
Avi
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:04 am
by longjohns
forge wrote:
that must be a bug and you should report it in the bug forum
are you POSITIVE you havent got "warped one shot" selected
I'm positive that I have got "unwarped one shot" selected AND long sample warp set to OFF.
still, a newly recorded clip gets warp turned on by default.
does this not work this way for other people??
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:15 am
by forge
longjohns wrote:forge wrote:
that must be a bug and you should report it in the bug forum
are you POSITIVE you havent got "warped one shot" selected
I'm positive that I have got "unwarped one shot" selected AND long sample warp set to OFF.
still, a newly recorded clip gets warp turned on by default.
does this not work this way for other people??
that's definitely not how it should behave and I just tried it and got the same behaviour - so you have found a bug!
so if you have a minute you should put a post in the bug forum and link to this thread, otherwise I'll do it later
in fact this must have been introduced with Live 6 because I'm pretty certain I've done plenty of unwarped recording with L5
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:29 pm
by dj superflat
i'm pretty sure i get warped turned on by default in live 5, so i don't think it's just 6.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:38 pm
by forge
Re: Looping audio clips to playback without warping
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:06 am
by alvaro
kineticUk wrote:Alot of the time I dont need my clips to be warped but just loop.
I think its an extra hassle when I am just working in a set bpm and recording tracks specifically for the song. I would like no alteration at all to the sound of the clips that are recorded.
It would save Cpu for normal audio playback as well.
Please add this simple feature ableton.
+1
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:27 pm
by Cryptic UK
+82
Yes!
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:58 pm
by sarth
Yes! Yes! Bump! Ambient non-synchronized non warped loops! Why not?
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:54 am
by Cryptic UK
Yes why not?
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:54 pm
by forge
I'm not sure what's getting missed here but "repitch" mode is really no different to looping unwarped - in fact that's exactly what it is
if you want to change the tempo or pitch then you have to timestretch
and if you dont then choose repitch mode
the only things I can think of that you dont get are things like sample offset envelopes and things like that that can only be done in beats mode
but straight up looping without warping is exactly what repitch mode does
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:33 pm
by Cryptic UK
yeah sure ive heard that one.
Can we just have the option please thanks.
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:36 pm
by forge
????
what option?
seriously, what are you asking for?
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:07 pm
by longjohns
actually, i thought it was recently demonstrated that beats mode is preferable to re-pitch in this case (??)
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:21 pm
by forge
longjohns wrote:actually, i thought it was recently demonstrated that beats mode is preferable to re-pitch in this case (??)
no not at all
try it
beats mode sub divides everything in beats
if you have a synth or vocal you will hear choppiness
there is a fundamental of digital audio to understand here:
repitch mode operates on a very basic level of speeding up or slowing down the sample rate while the output sample rate stays constant - which means the audio quality will not change one single iota because there is absolutely no timestretching involved
beats mode is at least some kind of timestretching algorithm
the recent point of beats mode being better was relative to other warp modes like tones or texture - but both of them are still a kind of timestretching
repitch on the other had is the digital equivalent of a pitch control on a turntable, all it does is plays the sample faster or slower
so if you are using a sample that you only want to loop and dont want to timstretch or change the key of then using repitch is akin to looping without warping