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A few years back I went too Spain and i got to converse with the communist party leader in spain and he still could not get over that we only had Two major parties to choose from he said that wasnt fair to the people. Thats coming from a communist leader. We The People has went out the door folks.

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U know thing have went pretty bad. If u have too campaign on a music forum!

MathMusick wrote:A few years back I went too Spain and i got to converse with the communist party leader in spain and he still could not get over that we only had Two major parties to choose from he said that wasnt fair to the people. Thats coming from a communist leader. We The People has went out the door folks.

No my friend. You forget the sixties. Regardless, the masses have the power.

Apathy is our biggest enemy.

We have power in numbers.

MathMusick wrote:U know thing have went pretty bad. If u have too campaign on a music forum!

Musicians vote. I campaign everywhere.

I was talking about our country not either party. I agree with the apathy thing as well.

i love that one of the right things for the gov't to do is set minimum wages. by that logic, shouldn't the gov't also set maximum prices? why liberals want to take jobs away from underprivileged minorities and immigrants (by raising the minimum wage) is beyond me. seems as dumb as keeping walmart out of poor communities where it can offer jobs and cheap prices on food and everything else (if thousands of people apply for hundreds of jobs at a given walmart, walmart clearly is paying a desireable wage).

knotkranky wrote:Apathy is our biggest enemy.

this could also be our solution. if no one voted how would they carry on?

riot...now we're talking. sounds extreme but you're right we do have power in numbers, we are the power. However protests are not enough, protests didn't prevent all the deaths in vietnam, nor the depleated uranium in iraq/afganistan/yugoslavia. The protests against iraq were far bigger & mainstream compared to those of vietnam, yet it is still occupied. We've shown we want it to stop, millions & millions all over the world also did but it did nothing. (if we lived in democracy the wars wouldnt happen in the first place). We have forgotten it is us with the power. Except we have so deeply forgotten that its gonna be hard to ever realise it properly again.

i liked the comment about the communist (i'll never understand america's obsession with it). Two people having chance of being elected is not democracy, its organised dictatorship.

What do you think of england? id be interested to hear.
democratic? Why, we have 3 parties that could get in (until recently it was 2). Let me just humour you for a second, would it be completely crazy to suggest that the queen is the one who rules the country, and the government are the ones who stand infront of her taking the shit & pushing forward the agenda? Everyone hates the politicians here but love the queen. I find that a bit fucked up to be honest, everyone thinks she just sits there doing fuck all being royal, yet not too long ago in the past her position held the world's power. Whatever political party gets in the results are always the same, look at the current labour government, they have done a U-turn on labour values & turned more torie than the torries in many aspects. Now surely that is dictatorship, perhaps of the worst kind because the people think they are free.

The same is true of america, same structure except the real power is hidden, as is the money. Bush isnt in power, that fucker cant even spell democracy. You seen his speeches? he cant even finish his sentances. to think that there is not a power above him, a hidden power seems kind of mad to me.

Meef Chaloin wrote:
What do you think of england? id be interested to hear.

For some reason the words

Nicotine
Beer
and
Dentistry come to mind

Oh, and big dance clubs

djadonis206 wrote:

Meef Chaloin wrote:
What do you think of england? id be interested to hear.

For some reason the words

Nicotine
Beer
and
Dentistry come to mind

Oh, and big dance clubs

hahaha. clubs crap, fags....well cant argue on that & beer...yes please but theres many who cant handle theirs.

never understoof the dentistry thing though, ive never had any fillings or treatment, perhaps thats not the norm?

I live in the south u just described it to the teeth. Besides the big dance clubs

dj superflat wrote:i love that one of the right things for the gov't to do is set minimum wages. by that logic, shouldn't the gov't also set maximum prices? why liberals want to take jobs away from underprivileged minorities and immigrants (by raising the minimum wage) is beyond me. seems as dumb as keeping walmart out of poor communities where it can offer jobs and cheap prices on food and everything else (if thousands of people apply for hundreds of jobs at a given walmart, walmart clearly is paying a desireable wage).

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... opsis.html

kranky are you a pro democrat anyway or do you just want change from Bush?

I want to take some power away from bush. Congressional elections are a great and rare opportunity to shift power. Maybe the two years bush has left with a dem congressional majority can slow him down, and even better, give power to those who can expose his treachery. Impeachment could be fun. Not possible with a republican majority.

knotkranky wrote:I want to take some power away from bush. Congressional elections are a great and rare opportunity to shift power. Maybe the two years bush has left with a dem congressional majority can slow him down, and even better, give power to those who can expose his treachery. Impeachment could be fun. Not possible with a republican majority.

And I would like to maintain GOP control of both houses.