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frankie123 wrote: I'd be surprised if you could find one citation of somebody that lost somebody in the towers saying "I don't think it was terrorist".

SURPRISE

http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

http://tomflocco.com/fs/911WidowQuestions.htm

http://justicefor911.org/press.php#1

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 6093059633

http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=15350

glu wrote:
in my belief, people who question it
are not diminishing the deaths of those that died.

frankie123 wrote:I really don't see what you're asking dude. Perhaps you're not phrasing your question correctly.

Caro pisciaturo,

It's obvious that my English is not good BUT I think that my post is not so difficult to understand. Some post ago, a cuple of guys spoke of conspiracy against actual American Government. My question is pretty simple: can they explain me WHO manages this conspiracy?

Du yu anderstend? (Al Pacino intonation)

Scube

glu wrote:

frankie123 wrote: I'd be surprised if you could find one citation of somebody that lost somebody in the towers saying "I don't think it was terrorist".

SURPRISE

http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

http://tomflocco.com/fs/911WidowQuestions.htm

http://justicefor911.org/press.php#1

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 6093059633

http://www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=15350

glu wrote:
in my belief, people who question it
are not diminishing the deaths of those that died.

Alright so a couple of people put up sites questioning the governement. You are right there. But I still stand that by questioning the 9/11 attacks, it does offend the majority number of people that lost family or friend.

Scube wrote:

frankie123 wrote:I really don't see what you're asking dude. Perhaps you're not phrasing your question correctly.

Caro pisciaturo,

It's obvious that my English is not good BUT I think that my post is not so difficult to understand. Some post ago, a cuple of guys spoke of conspiracy against actual American Government. My question is pretty simple: can they explain me WHO manages this conspiracy?

Du yu anderstend? (Al Pacino intonation)

Scube

No. What we are talking about is people who believe 9/11 was an inside job.... and therefore a conspiracy by the US government.

A lot of people believe this is the case.... but I, and many others, disagree.

subterFUSE wrote:

Scube wrote:

frankie123 wrote:I really don't see what you're asking dude. Perhaps you're not phrasing your question correctly.

Caro pisciaturo,

It's obvious that my English is not good BUT I think that my post is not so difficult to understand. Some post ago, a cuple of guys spoke of conspiracy against actual American Government. My question is pretty simple: can they explain me WHO manages this conspiracy?

Du yu anderstend? (Al Pacino intonation)

Scube

No. What we are talking about is people who believe 9/11 was an inside job.... and therefore a conspiracy by the US government.

A lot of people believe this is the case.... but I, and many others, disagree.

Yes, its obvious that his english is not good, I agree with him there.

frankie123 wrote:
Alright so a couple of people put up sites questioning the governement. You are right there. But I still stand that by questioning the 9/11 attacks, it does offend the majority number of people that lost family or friend.

frankie 1-3, you are killing me !!!!

These aren't just people who put up sites. Some are families of victims.

The whole idea of arguing about people being offended is dumb. It's not what I was even talking about, so I don't know why it keeps getting brought up. We can talk about what is and isn't offensive or what should or shouldn't be offensive for eons, so i think we should move on from that topic.

Questioning why someone died does not devalue their family's loss. There are hundreds and thousands of questionable deaths in history. Many have been investigated, cases re-opened, isn't that what justice is all about!??

subterFUSE wrote:
No. What we are talking about is people who believe 9/11 was an inside job.... and therefore a conspiracy by the US government.

A lot of people believe this is the case.... but I, and many others, disagree.

Or by certain individuals in the govt, that don't represent the entire leg, exec, and judic, and that would be more probable that "the entire US govt plotting to bring down towers."

you don't even have to go so far as to say it was an inside job, there's just a lot about it that stinks, a lot of things don't add up. why even go so far as to assign blame? there are some facts that don't add up.

1 - bin laden family being allowed to fly
2 - government officisls being warned on 9/10 not to fly
3 - two HUGE buildings falling straight down <- that's highly suspect to me
4 - melting temperature of steel vs. temperature of burning jet fuel
5 - no modern steel structure has fallen due to fire, just gutted
6 - why take down building 7
7 - why weren't reporters allowed to see the plane that was downed in PA
8 - the censorship of emergency communications from that day - why even consider that?
9 - the designer of the WTC designed it to take an airline hit.
10 - given the size of the fireball from the impact, how much freaking fuel could be in those tanks to cause THAT much damage?

it's a matter of national healing, if nothing else the current administration really messed up in not giving its citizens the empowerment to understand what happened so the healing process could take place. we're scarred for a very long time by our own government. If your family is under attack you don't sit there with your thumb up your butt reading My Pet Goat, and country is bigger than family when you're president. it just stinks.

if you just stick to obvious, known oddities there are questions that must be answered.

frankie123,

dont use that low emotional crap around here, nobody buys it...

not finding out the truth pisses on the graves of people who died in those buildings.

sweetjesus wrote:frankie123,

dont use that low emotional crap around here, nobody buys it...

not finding out the truth pisses on the graves of people who died in those buildings.

sweetjesus wrote:frankie123,

dont use that low emotional crap around here, nobody buys it...

not finding out the truth pisses on the graves of people who died in those buildings.

Low emotional crap, you're a presumptious dumb ass. More then one friend of mine lost somebody that I either knew personally, or indirectly. Personally, I was truly only affected by a friends brothers loss because I grew up with him. So don't come in here talking your ass off.

frankie123 wrote:Yes, its obvious that his english is not good, I agree with him there.

It's also obvious that you have nothing to say.. Anyway if you want we can speak Italian..

Ma va fammoccammamt

Scube

Aren't you also concerned that your government cynically used the deaths of these people to sure up support for a war which has killed at least tens of thousands more people, destabalised a whole region and increased the chances of further attacks?

That sounds a whole lot worse than people trying to uncover the truth, even if they are mistaken.

In a report leaked a few days ago, the heads of all of the security services in the US, agreed that the war in iraq had increased the likelyhood of further terrorist attacks both in the west and the rest of the world. Although Al Qaeda has been badly hurt, the conflict has created countless independant terroist cells, with virtually no links to known groups.

Scube wrote:

frankie123 wrote:Yes, its obvious that his english is not good, I agree with him there.

It's also obvious that you have nothing to say.. Anyway if you want we can speak Italian..

Ma va fammoccammamt

Scube

Petzu di merda

actually, the NIE report, which has now been released, don't reflect the tenor of the leaked, highly selective quotes.

(whatever happened to "shore up" rather than "sure up"?)