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Post by b0unce » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:32 am

and glu...you're analogy doesnt quite fit.

different shrooms bring about different experiences, they might as well be different drugs. To experience the pookie trip thats what its going to take, you can take two aussie shrooms...but you're getting a different experience - even after you balance out the dosages.

its like watching two different films. you cant just say a film is a film, and if you seen one you know what the other is like.
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Post by glu » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:36 am

but B

different herb has different effects too, as you probably well know. Some of the best stuff also makes me the sleepiest and some of the other best stuff excites me and keeps me wide awake as well. I prefer to smoke a little and get really high versus being a chimney...
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Post by b0unce » Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:56 am

sure..but psychedelic experiences are way more profound.

weed is essentially a body drug, it gives you energy or calms you down - depending on the variety. I know they classify it as psycotropic...but whatever.

different psychedelics, are like different dimensions....like watching entirely different films.

sure, you've watched one film - you might think you've seen em all, because you've looked at a silverscreen....but theres much more to it than the superficial experience of being out of your bin for a few hours.


astral fudge peddler didnt even make it past the trailers, and he's telling everyone that 'pookie' is a rubbish film. :roll:
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Post by Hypomixolydian » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:02 am

b0unce wrote: ....
psilopsybin is what you are after. With each different variety of mushroom, you'll need to take varying doses to get the appropriate amount of the psilopsybin.
I was told 30 was the dose to take and using that figure, it didn't compare and as I have said, my comparison was based on that. But I have explained that already. Is it my fault your tiny, pea size brain hasn't understood that?

Now you are becoming amusing rather than annoying. If you want to believe 100 skateboards is equal to or more powerful than a porsche, then go ahead. And you call me a fool? This is a bit like trying to explain astrophysics to an insect. No matter how hard you try, they just won't get it. I will say again, the Irish variety are not as strong as the Aussie and that is a fact!!!! Yeah it's about psilocybin and the amount you find in 30 Irish ones (the recommended dose) doesn't even compare next to one Aussie variety. That was the basis of my comparison. Come on now!!! It's not that hard to understand is it?

Maybe you think being raped and fucked up the arse by someone with a huge cock is unpleasant only after it has been done 100 times (though maybe you might enjoy the experience). Not that I am in a position to judge, but I think it would be unpleasant just after experiencing it just once. Does that make it clearer for you bouncey wouncey, pseudo tough guy who would wimper like a little puppy if he met me face to face and tried his tough act on me.

Look. I'll tell you what. I'll put 50 bucks in for your surgery.

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Re: im so stoned

Post by ze2be » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:12 am

john gordon wrote:im so stoned, it feels good too. 8)
Me too...heheh....

god, I need to go to bed now... :P

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Post by leisuremuffin » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:13 am

wow, i almost didn't read this thread!


i mean, weed is kinda boring.... But mushroom arguments! that's awesome!




shit, i don't know anything about euro-shrooms, but i do know a couple of useful things:



if you grow your own (highly recommended! not as hard as you might think) the best time to pick em is just before the cap tears away from the stem... y'kno? right before it opens. At least that was what me and my lady at the time figured after trying picking em at various stages. They're still small at this point, but they tend to be way more potent! Of course we had a shitload growing and could afford to just eat handfuls of the small ones. I suppose if we were trying to sell em or provide a lot of friends with em we would have let them grow a bit more.


also, another good thing to know: Most of the psilocybin is in the stems, not the caps. the caps expend most of their energy making spores....



well, thats about all i have to say... i only really know about psilocybin cubensis, so i can't impart any knowledge of any others.


but i will say this: 30 whole mushrooms is a fucking lot if they're p.c. i usually eat about an eighth ounce at a time if they're dried, and that's a pretty strong dose.



i'm not calling you a liar, astral, like you said, what reason would you have to lie anyway? I'm just a little taken aback... maybe they weren't p.c. ? ? i dunno. even 30 *weak* p.c. s would probably floor me, and uh, i'm pretty well seasoned.




BTW, i've thought about this great idea for a tv show:

it would be called psychedelic survivor man. Basically it's a rip off of the show on discovery channel in the us called "survivor man" in which a nutty survivalist tapes himself roughing it in pretty fucked up places. So here's my idea: I film myself taking a shit load of really strong acid and then have to spend the entire day in a busy shopping mall. I'd have a list of items i'd have to buy or something. Then the next episode i could go to a very busy DMV office and have to renew my drivers license and registration on my car. shit, i think it would be a pretty good show.



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Post by forge » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:36 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:
BTW, i've thought about this great idea for a tv show:

it would be called psychedelic survivor man. Basically it's a rip off of the show on discovery channel in the us called "survivor man" in which a nutty survivalist tapes himself roughing it in pretty fucked up places. So here's my idea: I film myself taking a shit load of really strong acid and then have to spend the entire day in a busy shopping mall. I'd have a list of items i'd have to buy or something. Then the next episode i could go to a very busy DMV office and have to renew my drivers license and registration on my car. shit, i think it would be a pretty good show.



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that's excellent!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

you should definitely do it

the production company that does jackass would probably take it on

as for the shroom debate - the australian ones are completely different - they're big - like as big as ones you'd cook with

the ones I had in the UK were these tiny little things - and due to some loophole in the law you can actually buy them in shops - I dont know what kind they were but I know a friend picked some in wales and they were the same, so they are local

the dose I bought was about 30 and I was told to split it with someone and I only just felt something - i think if I had the whole bag it would have been different

but the ones in australia are really big chunky things - although there are different types here too

but I went out picking some once with a friend and got a bag full but the time just was never right to take them and they went all maggotty so I never even tried them

that was in tasmania and I believe they are different again - but I kjnow he was telling me to have small doses - like I think we were either going to split 7 between us or have 7 each - I remember the number 7

nearly 10 years ago so i cant remember clearly

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Post by hoffman2k » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:45 pm

These days, you can just order them online.
Here's the site of my favorite "brand" of shrooms
http://www.procare.nl/

If i want something specific, I just call the nearest smart shop to order something ;)

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Post by Hypomixolydian » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:42 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:


BTW, i've thought about this great idea for a tv show:

it would be called psychedelic survivor man. Basically it's a rip off of the show on discovery channel in the us called "survivor man" in which a nutty survivalist tapes himself roughing it in pretty fucked up places. So here's my idea: I film myself taking a shit load of really strong acid and then have to spend the entire day in a busy shopping mall. I'd have a list of items i'd have to buy or something. Then the next episode i could go to a very busy DMV office and have to renew my drivers license and registration on my car. shit, i think it would be a pretty good show.
That is an EXCELLENT IDEA for a TV show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would watch it and record every episode!!!!


forge wrote:
but the ones in australia are really big chunky things - although there are different types here too
The Melbourne (Red Hill variety) have a long thin stem about 6-7 cm in length, the caps are about 3cm in diameter and they are a kind of golden brown colour. I personally wouldn't consider that large and chunky. One or two of those will send you where no man has gone before. The cool thing is that it is also very pleasant and I know not one person who had a bad trip with them. Once a year we used to throw a party where about 30 people came along and ate them. Quite a few of them were straight too who took no drugs, not even a toke on a joint, yet they enjoyed the experience and didn't freak out. It was great fun!!! But I don't do that stuff anymore.

By the way, the Red Hill variety only grow around May/June and are in season for about 3-4 weeks. Then that's it for a year. It's amazing how many freaked out dudes you see walking around the fields in Red Hill during that period.

I remember one year picking 2000 of them!!!!! I was hoping to boil them up and keep the liquid in a preserve jar. But I didn't know then that everytime you open the container, you had to resterilise it. Unfortunately, it went rancid. What a waste!!

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Post by b0unce » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:28 pm

Astral Fridge Magnet wrote: I was told 30 was the dose to take and using that figure, it didn't compare and as I have said, my comparison was based on that. But I have explained that already. Is it my fault your tiny, pea size brain hasn't understood that?
Fuck your friends shitty recommendation, obviously they're wrong - your alleged friends that is. get THAT into your puny brain.
Astral Fridge Magnet wrote: Now you are becoming amusing rather than annoying. If you want to believe 100 skateboards is equal to or more powerful than a porsche, then go ahead. And you call me a fool? This is a bit like trying to explain astrophysics to an insect. No matter how hard you try, they just won't get it. I will say again, the Irish variety are not as strong as the Aussie and that is a fact!!!! Yeah it's about psilocybin and the amount you find in 30 Irish ones (the recommended dose) doesn't even compare next to one Aussie variety. That was the basis of my comparison. Come on now!!! It's not that hard to understand is it?
my 'friend' recommended I eat a thousand aussie mushrooms, I damn near died - aussie mushrooms are poisonous. <---thats your logic. And your skateboard analogy is stupid too.
Astral Fridge Magnet wrote: Maybe you think being raped and fucked up the arse by someone with a huge cock is unpleasant only after it has been done 100 times (though maybe you might enjoy the experience). Not that I am in a position to judge, but I think it would be unpleasant just after experiencing it just once. Does that make it clearer for you bouncey wouncey, pseudo tough guy who would wimper like a little puppy if he met me face to face and tried his tough act on me.
?..Dude, I'd mash you given half the chance. Hell, let me know next time you're in cork and I can have it organised by phone if I cant make it down. I've kicked enough ass to take a mincer like you on.

And Whats up with you ? This is about mushrooms and you're talking about penis sizes and male rape ? And looking for a fight ? You've got issues.
And congrats on another retarded analogy...
Astral Fridge Magnet wrote: Look. I'll tell you what. I'll put 50 bucks in for your surgery.
...

You're a shite peddler dude, you probably just consult erowid or something - but I can smell the stink from here. You dont know a fucking thing about irish mushrooms, even if you did get a recommendation from a friend - if they're even half as mincey as you (the type of guy who yearns for acceptance & friendship off a bunch of strangers online) its no surprise 30 is their limit.

for everyone else, pookies are small when they're fresh, VERY small when they're dried. 30 fresh is about a mouthfull...a couple of chomps and washed down with some water and your set. 100 sounds like alot when you have no idea what they look like in the palm of your hand, or when you listen to a dumbass like astral fudge peddler. Treat pookies with caution, should you get a chance to take them. And take small doses, like 30, every 15 minutes untill you reach your peak - then once you're comfortable you can take more if you like. Or hell, just make some tea out of them and juice it. This way is preferrable if you plan on a sustained trip - once your in full flight the sight & taste of them can take away from the pleasantness.



euro shrooms are not 'piss weak' , because each individual shroom is not as potent as a fuckin large variety from australia. If you even knew the first thing about it man, you wouldnt make such mongoloid conclusions. Anyways, your male rape & penis size ad hominems coupled with your 'challenge' of dealing with you face to face didnt go un-noticed. When you're here for the 8th time make sure to get in contact. I'll do your friends for free.
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Post by leisuremuffin » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:12 pm

episode 3 of my show i'll have to meet a bunch of people from the forum.

that'll be a good one!




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Post by stallos » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:32 pm

am a bit late in joining....


i am not stoned, ran out of weed a couple of weeks ago and nobody seems to have any :(


this is longest I have been without a smoke for a while so its probably doing me some good. Sleep patterns are destroyed tho!


its a disgrace that its easier to get coke than a few reefers these days!
hopefully something will turn up soon!

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Post by b0unce » Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:37 pm

"scottish weed is weak as piss, I caught some second hand smoke when I stood beside a toker when I was in glasgow - the real good shit is in the amazon"
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Post by frisbeedisk » Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:06 pm

b0unce wrote:"scottish weed is weak as piss, I caught some second hand smoke when I stood beside a toker when I was in glasgow - the real good shit is in the amazon"
Your right b0unce, and thats why i dont smoke it..i just do smack instead 8O

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Post by Hypomixolydian » Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:07 pm

b0unce wrote:
Astral Fridge Magnet wrote: I was told 30 was the dose to take and using that figure, it didn't compare and as I have said, my comparison was based on that. But I have explained that already. Is it my fault your tiny, pea size brain hasn't understood that?
Fuck your friends shitty recommendation, obviously they're wrong - your alleged friends that is. get THAT into your puny brain.
Well, if it is the case that my friends were wrong, why couldn't you tell me in a civil manner rather than get abusive? As I have said a thousand times, that was what they recommended, so my comparison was based on that. You still haven't been able to understand that. So who has the puny brain?

b0unce wrote:
And your skateboard analogy is stupid too.
Only because you don't get it. Mentally inept types like you often ridicule concepts they don't understand. It's a coping mechanism to help them deal with feelings of inadequacy.
b0unce wrote:


You're a shite peddler dude, you probably just consult erowid or something - but I can smell the stink from here. You dont know a fucking thing about irish mushrooms,
First of all, I don't know what erowid is. Secondly, there you go again making false assumptions. I have obviously caused some disruption in your solipsist universe. As I have pointed out (but I keep failing to realise that you are incapable of understanding basic concepts), solipsism was discredited a long time ago. There is more to this world than your narrow perception of things.
b0unce wrote:

I'd mash you given half the chance. Hell, let me know next time you're in cork and I can have it organised by phone if I cant make it down.
So are you saying then that it wouldn't be you who would come down yourself. Instead you would send your mates to fight your battles?
b0unce wrote:
And Whats up with you ? This is about mushrooms and you're talking about penis sizes and male rape ? And looking for a fight ? You've got issues.

First of all, I thought I'd fight fire with fire. Seeing you constantly make inane comments, I thought I'd chuck one in of my own. Am I looking for a fight? No. What I said was, that I doubt very much a wimp like you hiding behind a computer in the safety of your home and anonimity of internet would be brave enough to be abusive to my face.

b0unce wrote:
I'd mash you given half the chance. Hell, let me know next time you're in cork

............................

When you're here for the 8th time make sure to get in contact. I'll do your friends for free.
I'd be very careful about what you say, if I were you. You can have whatever in your hands as a weapon barring a gun and I can assure you I will be able to deal with it EASILY!!!!!!!!!! But as I said, I am not after a fight. It would be unfair anyway and I am peaceful by nature unless push comes to shove. So excuse me if you think I have physically threatened you, because I haven't. But due to your misconceptions, now you are thtreatening me. Be VERY CAREFUL!!!!!! And take my advice on that one!!!!!
b0unce wrote: (the type of guy who yearns for acceptance & friendship off a bunch of strangers online)
For the record, I don't give a shit about some anonymous entity on internet and I certainly am not looking for acceptance and friendship here. I occassionally make a contribution to a forum that caters for a product run by the makers of the software I use. Some information I read here is useful, some crap I read is ridiculous and unfortunately I have to cope with
mentally deficients plebs like you. But I suppose that is the price you pay when you join and contribute to internet forums. There are loads of total sickos out there. and you seem to be one of them.


Get help man!!!!!

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