CUBASE / ABLETON AGAIN

radib · Post by **radib** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:46 pm

Yeah Samplitube sounds great. Even greater than Cubase, and a whole universe than Live.

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:24 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:
Machinate wrote:
leisuremuffin wrote:
And I'll add:
"Pound Puppy"

djritchie · Post by **djritchie** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:35 pm

Lets just re-iterate how much of a TW£T this geeza is...

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 2&start=15

fool

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:30 am

First of all it's SAMPLITUDE and yet again, same pan law, same audio files, same plugins, no difference. Live, Cubase and Samplitude all use the same 32 bit summing architecture.

Samplitude has a good reputation for audio as it was truly an audio editor on first release (the first one to run in 32 bit floating point mixing too) that has subsequently had MIDI and vst support etc added, whereas Cubase and Sonar started out as MIDI programs which added audio.

Samplitude also has a great set of plugins available in the box, probably the best compressors, EQs and reverbs etc. on a Windows platform (yes, Sonar has good plugins too since they got 3rd party like Kjaerhus and Sonitus on board and Cubase 4 has vastly improved synths and plugins compared to SX3).

Which DAW are you going to suggest next - How about SAWSTUDIO BLOWS LIVE AWAY? I'm enjoying the comedy element of this thread, it's good to laugh

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:40 am

blaugruen7 wrote:are there any AB tests of playback of the same stereo files in both clients?
i think lives panlaw is set to 0. so do this the same to cubase.

i really believe that live is percieved to sound different because it looks different and feels different.

yes, there have been many equivalence phase tests.

taking a set number of tracks into both, say 10 audio files. Then rendering as a mix and taking the cubase and the live file and inverting one and laying it over the other. IE Phase reversal & cancellation.
If both files are the same then the files should cancel. Can you guess what happened?

clue: there was no phatness or yellow-whiteness left over.

after the tests all the people who could hear a magic difference, claimed that something else must be the elf like reason. Such claims as - "I don't care what the 'science' says, my ears tell me different, I am a pro, etc".
Which gave rise to the great "ears better than science" hilarity of 2007.

Whatever you want to believe is true, then that is true for you.

adventurepants_ · Post by **adventurepants_** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:41 am

somwhere on the Troll homeworld, a little party is being held in radlibs honour.

meanwhile here on planet Ableton, another childish douchebag gets added to the ignore script.

djritchie · Post by **djritchie** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:56 am

amen 2 that

radib · Post by **radib** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:26 am

Newspaper in the Ableton Village:

"With sovereign glory and strong emphasis our folks defended the church against our evil forces of Tasteland."

One on those phase tests etc. It is bullshit, my golden ear says.

djritchie · Post by **djritchie** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:28 am

More like the retarded forces of RadibLand...

radib · Post by **radib** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:23 pm

No no, I´m not an owner of a land. No time!

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:58 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:
leisuremuffin wrote:
Machinate wrote: And I'll add:
"Pound Puppy"

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:07 pm

radib wrote:Yeah Samplitube sounds great. Even greater than Cubase, and a whole universe than Live.

Kids, make a note: I record everything directly into that wonderpiece.

sampliw0t?!

radib · Post by **radib** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:50 pm

Daim wrote: sampliw0t?!

Samplicute.

pixelbox · Post by **pixelbox** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:06 pm

I did an A/B test of the Live 6 box vs the Cubase 4 box, and I saw that the Cubase box has more white and blue on it. Ableton Live 6 had too much black. I think I'm going to switch.

tamtam · Post by **tamtam** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:29 pm

leedsquietman wrote:Samplitude has a good reputation for audio as it was truly an audio editor on first release (the first one to run in 32 bit floating point mixing too) that has subsequently had MIDI and vst support etc added, whereas Cubase and Sonar started out as MIDI programs which added audio.

Who would have thought this thread reveals some interessting information, thanks for posting that. I always wondered how come Samplitude has such high regard amongst these creationists of digital audio.