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davec1 wrote:btw, apart from being incorrect, that jewish gold tooth thing is really bad taste....

You're a fucking moron, AND a denier. Typical Eurotrash response. My God. Do you people have NO fucking shame?

Bad taste? So is continuing a policy of not returning Jewish money, gold, art, and GOLD TEETH that you Swiss continue to hold in your Bank Vaults.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/125727.stm
Relatives of Jewish Holocaust victims accuse Swiss banks of refusing to release assets deposited by tens of thousands of people who died in the Nazi concentration camps.

The banks are also accused of handling property looted by Nazi Germany from death camp victims, including gold teeth and wedding rings.



http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9805/25/nazi.gold/

http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/mo ... story.html

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/ ... lions.html

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/front/deta ... 0799707000

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1516430.stm

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_h ... _n19726789


The only thing more pathetic than American foreign policy is the Citizens of Europa and their complete and total inability to own up to their rampant murderous bullshit that they continue to propagate...


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thelike5 wrote:Khamenei was the President of Iran in the 1980's! Now he Supreme Leader.

Khamenei is a cleric and politician.

Who's to say Ahmadinejad won't turn into the cleric himself?

Because the required education and trip through Shi'ite hierarchy to become even remotely qualified in the eyes of the people who elect the supreme leader takes half a fucking century, is why.

There's a lot of rumblings that Khamenei himself is not qualified (they even rewrote the constitution for him, removing a few superlatives from the job description), and it does nothing good for his credibility in the quite complex power plays that go on in Iran.

Appointing Ahmadinejad Supreme Leader would be tantamount to dismantling the Islamic Republic. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time replying to your little theory. It's stupid. You quite clearly don't know anything about Iran.

(Forgot how nicely the word "cunt" works on Americans, BTW)

davec1 wrote:tone deft, of course it's preferable to have less than more nuclear weapons. I just don't think nuclear powers themselves are legitimized to bitch about anyone else getting some of their own. Non-nuclear powers, that's a different stories, they're not hypocritical if they complain.

but france, usa, china, russia, israel, germany (?), uk, (south africa?)? imho they'll be entitled to voice their concerns the day that they give up their own nuclear bombs, not a single day earlier. same goes for other wmd...

are you familiar with the SALT treaties? if not, go read then come back. the nuclear non-proliferation treaty was signed by 189 countries. sounds unfair to me.

and yes, the Swiss banks are genuine assholes.
stay neutral.
prosper.

b0unce wrote:amazing.
We should all savour this inevitably brief moment of clarity.

Tastes like chicken!


When it comes to foreign policy, and many other things, I'm a Dyed in the Wool liberal. For that I make no apologies.


That doesn't mean that I sit back and let Eurotrash Twinks and Russian Mobsters think that they can get away with saying whatever the fuck they want to about America without first acknowledging, addressing, then cleaning up the blood and shit filled cesspools that they call home.

landrvr1 wrote: That doesn't mean that I sit back and let Eurotrash Twinks and Russian Mobsters think that they can get away with saying whatever the fuck they want to about America without first acknowledging, addressing, then cleaning up the blood and shit filled cesspools that they call home.

have you?

4.33 wrote:

landrvr1 wrote: That doesn't mean that I sit back and let Eurotrash Twinks and Russian Mobsters think that they can get away with saying whatever the fuck they want to about America without first acknowledging, addressing, then cleaning up the blood and shit filled cesspools that they call home.

have you?

You seem more determined than ever to prove my point for me.

Continue, please.



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noisetonepause wrote:

thelike5 wrote:Khamenei was the President of Iran in the 1980's! Now he Supreme Leader.

Khamenei is a cleric and politician.

Who's to say Ahmadinejad won't turn into the cleric himself?

Because the required education and trip through Shi'ite hierarchy to become even remotely qualified in the eyes of the people who elect the supreme leader takes half a fucking century, is why.

There's a lot of rumblings that Khamenei himself is not qualified (they even rewrote the constitution for him, removing a few superlatives from the job description), and it does nothing good for his credibility in the quite complex power plays that go on in Iran.

Appointing Ahmadinejad Supreme Leader would be tantamount to dismantling the Islamic Republic. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time replying to your little theory. It's stupid. You quite clearly don't know anything about Iran.

(Forgot how nicely the word "cunt" works on Americans, BTW)

Well aren't you the little fountain of knowledge!!

If "they" removed a few "superlatives" or even rewrote the constitution(WTF? isn't that a red herring?) who's to say that if Ahmadinejad wants it they won't amened the description for him, too?

Let's not forget, Khamenei gave his blessing on Ahmadinejad so... the possiblity that what goes around comes around exists.

In another 10 years I'll pull this thread back up and stick it in your face. You just wait and see.

landrvr1 wrote: You seem more determined than ever to prove my point for me.

elaborate.

i fail to understand your complex brainwork. and defending the rights of jewish people doesn't make you any less fascist

4.33 wrote:

landrvr1 wrote: You seem more determined than ever to prove my point for me.

elaborate.

i fail to understand your complex brainwork. and defending the rights of jewish people doesn't make you any less fascist

Lest you forgot the term "fascism" pretty much came front and center during the second World War based on the little tricks Germany was trying to pull with their ethnic cleansing.

Hence, defending Jewish people during the second world war would actually be the opposite of supporting fascim. If Swiss banks are lined with the golden teeth of holocaust victims then I have to say that that is a direct reflection of supporting a fascist regime.

edit: fascism is fascism no matter what time or place

Machinate wrote:Godwins

success

noisetonepause wrote:Appointing Ahmadinejad Supreme Leader would be tantamount to dismantling the Islamic Republic.

(Forgot how nicely the word "cunt" works on Americans, BTW)

Complex power plays in Iran is right. In fact, most every Western reporting agency - be they left, middle, or right - gets it completely wrong. Fuck, the Iranians THEMSELVES can't seem to figure out which end is up these days.

The absolute best article on this came from the LA Times last year. It was reprinted in various rags, but widely unreported and forgotten.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... ome-center

The very reason that Iran isn't going to do shit is that from a pure organization and power distribution standpoint, they are hopelessly deadlocked. The first 6 paragraphs of that article are all you need to know...


A fascinating piece that gets into the various ins outs....
http://www.cfr.org/publication/16598/fi ... tives.html


"Drunks". I never forget how perfect that word is to describe the Danes...


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4.33 wrote:elaborate., because I'm a complete fucking moron.

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landrvr1 wrote:

4.33 wrote:elaborate., because I'm a complete fucking moron.

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wellwellwell what do we see
one redneck fascist has learned to falsify the quotes
who knows where this can lead him
landrvr1 for president?

4.33 wrote:wellwellwell what do we see
one redneck fascist has learned to falsify the quotes
who knows where this can lead him
landrvr1 for president?

I know, that was really mean wasn't it? I'll write you an apology. Just as soon as I get back from gettin' me another can of Miller Lite, beating my wife and kids, burning that stack of old tires in my front yard, and puttin' on another Lee Greenwood tune.

Oh, and just in case you forgot....

http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/2008/ ... -chechnya/

A little light reading for you to get re-acquainted with your country's atrocities...


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