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Re: iPad
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:33 am
by stringtapper
Nope. Doesn't work.
It comes down to what someone said in one of those threads: plugins inside Logic can't send MIDI, whether it's from Ultrabeat's sequencer or from a MIDI region.
For all of the ways that Logic excels at MIDI over Live this is one thing that seems like a glaring omission, probably left over from Logic's hardware-centric days.
Re: iPad
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:11 pm
by beats me
SHIT.
But thanks for checking that out for me.
PS. I meant I posted that question at logicprohelp.com, not macprohelp.com I put above.

Re: iPad
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:51 pm
by beats me
There’s just something gratifying about swipe deleting emails on a touch screen. Sure, having 50 emails in front of you on a computer that you just tick a bunch of boxes and hit a global delete button is quicker, but swipe deleting feels organic and like you’re an active participant. It’s the vinyl DJing of email deletion.

Re: iPad
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:11 pm
by H20nly
i'm H20nly and i endorse the vinyl DJing of email deletion.
Re: iPad
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:24 pm
by beats me
I thought the Music and Audio Production forum on here was overly busy, but my post on logicprohelp.com last posted in on Friday is already on the third page of the forum.
I have yet to check it out, but somebody posted a link to an add-on 16 note step sequencer somebody made that appears in Logic Pro X’s new MIDI devices once you install it. It’s a start. I’d like more than 16 pads since Damage has way more sounds than that, but maybe Apple or somebody else will add something a little more in depth.
Here’s the link if somebody else wants to use it.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/logic-pr ... pro-x.html

Re: iPad
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:07 pm
by stringtapper
Right, forgot about the new scripting feature in Logic X. Cool stuff.
Re: iPad
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:12 pm
by beats me
Alright, another Logic X issue I can’t find anything on. When bouncing a track the resulting file doesn’t start right at the beginning, like it starts slightly after the kick drum hits. In fact I don’t think I’ve bounced a track yet that doesn’t do that. Thoughts?

Re: iPad
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:43 pm
by Tarekith
A lot of iOS musicians hate getting stuck on older devices with the rate Apple releases them. If you play the game right however, it's actually cheaper to get a new iPad every year than to wait. Read how:
http://tarekith.com/the-upgrade-game/
Re: iPad
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:13 pm
by beats me
Tarekith wrote:A lot of iOS musicians hate getting stuck on older devices with the rate Apple releases them. If you play the game right however, it's actually cheaper to get a new iPad every year than to wait. Read how:
http://tarekith.com/the-upgrade-game/
My work has your site blocked.
I’m assuming reselling current iPad is part of your process.
Re: iPad
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:34 pm
by beats me
More Logic talk. I like how you can select the arrangement of several tracks and all the notes from all the tracks appear in the piano roll. Great when you have all your drum hits on their own tracks (and don’t want to group track for whatever reason). But I wish there was a way that it distinctly showed you which notes are from which track, unless I’m missing something. That would be ideal when you select multiple melody tracks and want to make adjustments visually comparing them to each other. Like instead of colors representing note velocity, colors would represent a different track. Track 1 all green notes, track 2 all red, etc. Can it do something like that?

Re: iPad
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:08 pm
by Tarekith
Here you go Beats, just for you:
The upgrade game, how many times have we all played this? Something new and shiny comes out, and we start feeling that urge that what we were happily using yesterday is no longer good enough. No where does this seem to happen more than with Apple iOS devices, something I know all too well given how much music work I do on my iPad and iPhone.
More than a few people have asked me either why I tend to upgrade my devices every year, or more common, how I can afford it? The truth is, upgrading every year to the latest and greatest iPad is the cheapest and easiest way to do it! Let me explain the system I use, and how it’s something I think all iOS musicians should embrace.
For starters, if you’re one of those people constantly wondering if Apple is going to release a new iPad each week, then this likely doesn’t apply to you. The rest of you who follow this stuff know that for the last few years iPads have come out on a fairly regular yearly schedule. The first step then in getting on the upgrade train is to get a new iPad right when they are first released.
At no other time will your iPad have the longest useable life or be worth more, so it pays to get in early. I know some people will caution that new devices mean possibly more buggy daily use, but the opposite has been true in my experience. Both Apple and developers seem to favor the newer and faster devices when designing their software. Ever notice how right after a new iPad is released, new app updates start appearing that make your older iPad suddenly feel slower? We’re still in the early days of tablet computing, so every little increase in CPU power is desired for most musicians.
The first step is obviously the easiest then, buy your iPad. The first one will never be cheap, but I encourage you to avoid going the refurb or used route if you can, because it makes a huge difference for the next step.
You see, if you sell your current iPad while it’s still the current generation, you get more money for it. In fact, current iPads have the best resale value, so the trick is to time your sale right. Usually I will post my current iPad for sale on eBay the same day the new ones are announced. In fact, if like me you know an Apple press conference is coming, and that it’s likely for new iPads, you can even get a jump and do it a day early if you want. Otherwise waiting until you see the new one announced and know it will work for you (why wouldn’t it?) is fine too.
So then, new iPads announced, time to get yours on eBay FAST. The longer you wait to sell your’s from thsi point forward, the more money you’re going to lose. Make sure you select global shipping, especially with eBay’s new consolidated shipping service meaning you only need to send it to the east coast US and eBay deals with the international portion. International buyers will always pay more than US buyers, it’s not even close. Make sure you skip the buy it now option, and start with a really low auction price to get people interested too.
On average I’ve been able to sell my 16GB iPads for around $400, which I can then use to put towards the cost of the newest iPad. Since new 16GB iPads tend to cost about $500, this means it really only costs me around $100 to get the newest iPad. Different storage sizes will cost more obviously, but they sell for more too so the same principle applies.
Long story short, by buying new and selling ASAP when new iPads are announced, you can stay on the latest and greatest hardware for around $100 year.
Sure you could keep that $100 a year instead and hang on to your iPad for a few years. But consider that keeping your iPad for 3 years means that when you go to sell you’ll only likely get around $100 for it. That means every three years you need to pay $400 to upgrade to a new iPad, where as it only cost me $300 in that same time. And I was able to use the latest iPad each year so it’s likely I’ll have less CPU issues (software seems to get more CPU hungry each year as I said).
I’ve come to look at my iPads almost like a leasing arrangement. As a musician, I’m always wishing for faster CPUs (lets not talk about iPad RAM at this point!) so this is well worth it for me. This used to work the same for iPhones, though lately the carriers have gotten more strict about enforcing the 2 year upgrade path, so the savings aren’t quite as big. Still the best way to deal with upgrades on the iPhone too though.
It might not be for everyone, but I’ve found that this is the cheapest way to upgrade my iPad over time. And of course, it also means I can make sure I’m always using the latest hardware too. Not a bad deal!
Re: iPad
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:57 pm
by beats me
Thanks!
But…But…BUT what about the time between you selling your iPad and when you get a new iPad? You don’t have an iPad. HORRIFYING!!

Re: iPad
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:02 pm
by Tarekith
That's what iPhones are for.
Re: iPad
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:03 pm
by beats me
I don’t want to live in the dystopia you are suggesting there.
Re: iPad
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:33 pm
by beats me
I just took a ruler to my iPhone screen diagonally to see what the predicted 4.8” screen of the iPhone 6 might look/feel like. Seems like it would be a little wide for my dainty hands.
