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crofter wrote:

myrnova wrote:

crofter wrote:Facists, Marxists, whatever, you go around following what some dead bloke wrote and you're the sheep, me I'm an individual,I can think for myself, the trouble with all you pseudo-intellectuals is you've read so much bullshit from dead guys, you can't tell what's real anymore

... he forgot "capitalist", "imperialist", "nationalist" and "expansionist".... guess why

You're good at lists, you type em out.

myrnova wrote:In my country (Italy) there are three categories: "ist", "anti-ist" and "sheep"
It is a question of choices: be "ist" or, if needed, "anti-ist".
If you choose the third option it is just because you are a sheep, (you refuse to think and choose and believe "oh, i am free, independent", but of course it's bullshit, you remain a sheep)

Funk N. Furter wrote:

Forge. wrote: have you told myrnova about your forum? You two could be happy there.

The problem with my forum is that everyone knows everyone else anyway, so they don't need a forum. Every Facebook status becomes a mini-thread. Plus half of them meet in real life. It always was more of a reunion than anything. Also people were very polite and judging by this forum, politeness isn't what 'sells'.

crofter wrote:

myrnova wrote:In my country (Italy) there are three categories: "ist", "anti-ist" and "sheep"
It is a question of choices: be "ist" or, if needed, "anti-ist".
If you choose the third option it is just because you are a sheep, (you refuse to think and choose and believe "oh, i am free, independent", but of course it's bullshit, you remain a sheep)

I don't live in Italy

myrnova wrote:

crofter wrote:

myrnova wrote:In my country (Italy) there are three categories: "ist", "anti-ist" and "sheep"
It is a question of choices: be "ist" or, if needed, "anti-ist".
If you choose the third option it is just because you are a sheep, (you refuse to think and choose and believe "oh, i am free, independent", but of course it's bullshit, you remain a sheep)

I don't live in Italy

infact I call you "a sheep"
No offense intended.

Funk N. Furter wrote:

myrnova wrote:But he put aside his hate and in doing so became more relevant to many more people and therefore more of a threat to the system.

Do you think this is a positive thing? In my opinion this is one of the reasons black people in america are still discriminated and poor.

Of course it is positive. If he had lived, he could have ended up leading the working class against capitalism.

myrnova wrote:

Funk N. Furter wrote:

myrnova wrote:But he put aside his hate and in doing so became more relevant to many more people and therefore more of a threat to the system.

Do you think this is a positive thing? In my opinion this is one of the reasons black people in america are still discriminated and poor.

Of course it is positive. If he had lived, he could have ended up leading the working class against capitalism.

For me it is not positive. Black people had to be much more "anti" and take rifles, kill KKK fellows, etc. But this is my very personal italian antifascist opinion (we killed fascists in italy, and it was good).

Funk N. Furter wrote:

crofter wrote: Facists, Marxists, whatever, you go around following what some dead bloke wrote and you're the sheep, me I'm an individual,I can think for myself, the trouble with all you pseudo-intellectuals is you've read so much bullshit from dead guys, you can't tell what's real anymore

Why does the fact that Marx is dead mean I can't tell what is real? It's bullshit. The fact is that I am more aware of what's real than most people on this thread put together. Your statement is meaningless, literally. It has no meaning. If you are so good at telling what's real, tell us why I can't. I want concrete examples.

I mean, is Egypt in a revolutionary situation or not? What is the balance of forces there? What needs to be done? What is the likely outcome. Was I wrong to say don't trust the generals? Give specifics, not woolly meaningless twaddle.

crofter wrote:

myrnova wrote:
For me it is not positive. Black people had to be much more "anti" and take rifles, kill KKK fellows, etc. But this is my very personal italian antifascist opinion (we killed fascists in italy, and it was good).

So, war is good now, hmmmm.

myrnova wrote:

crofter wrote:

myrnova wrote:
For me it is not positive. Black people had to be much more "anti" and take rifles, kill KKK fellows, etc. But this is my very personal italian antifascist opinion (we killed fascists in italy, and it was good).

So, war is good now, hmmmm.

"war"? You call killing fascist pigs "war"? Do you at least realize WHAT fascism is? I understand your "sheep" perspective, though... "me i am independent" and such crap.

myrnova wrote:

crofter wrote:

myrnova wrote:
For me it is not positive. Black people had to be much more "anti" and take rifles, kill KKK fellows, etc. But this is my very personal italian antifascist opinion (we killed fascists in italy, and it was good).

So, war is good now, hmmmm.

"war"? You call killing fascist pigs "war"? Do you at least realize WHAT fascism is? I understand your "sheep" perspective, though... "me i am independent" and such crap.

Funk N. Furter wrote:Meaningless.
I may be sad, but you are a lot sadder. At least I have an opinion. And I'm always right.

Funk N. Furter wrote: Meaningless.
I may be sad, but you are a lot sadder. At least I have an opinion. And I'm always right.