Ableton Forum

alexsg wrote:you cant really explore that side of live in 14 days at all, not to really get an idea of the scope of the possibilities.

I totally agree with you: when you begin to fiddle with Live as your first serious DAW/piece of software, 14 days are NOT enough. But this is why the non-save limitation of the demo is great, you can use all of Live's possibilities for an unlimited amount of time - you don't need to save your set to learn how to build a rack, how to warp, how to learn how to automate your track. And the more you repeat each step after quitting Live the more you become used to it - efficient.

And there are enough free tutorials on the net, not to mention the possibility to buy the printed manual from the Abes for us PDF haters, to be able to eventually get some skills with Live; then, when you want to record something to give it a more extensive try, get a 14-days licence.

I think this 'dual mode' demo, first without save, then with the full-functionality 14-days licence, is the BEST answer to us beginners with Live. The best possible solution. Here, the 'try before you buy' justification is rather worthless.

I am still fiddling with Live 8 Suite demo, my manual shall arrive this morning, btw. So, no crack for me either. No need for one anyway!

starving student wrote:I downloaded a cracked version of Ableton the whole company and then went in and paid them cash for a legitamate copy of Live now STFUUUUUUUUUUUU

sacredgeometry wrote:and from experience i have witnessed over 50 of my friends going from cracked versions to payed....

You have 50 friends who use Live? Really?

gavspav wrote:I'll put my hands up and say I had a cracked copy of Live before I bought it.

How many of you can honestly say you didn't?

I can.

Sacredgeometry - it takes a douche to know a douche. And I am certainly inferior in the douchery department next to Sacredgeometry, douche master (yes you know you display your plaque with pride).

I dare say you also excel in the fucktard category.

You've been here for 5 minutes and contributed NOTHING, except lay bare your guilty conscious and BS theories on illegal warez.
How about putting some music up, or responding to threads which matter, instead of wasting your time arguing like a spoiled 2 year old.

macmurphy wrote:

sacredgeometry wrote:and from experience i have witnessed over 50 of my friends going from cracked versions to payed....

You have 50 friends ? Really?

This thread is quite an interesting read.

i don´t get it.

some are complaining about 14days of trial isn´t enough ?

what are you doing before bying a synth or a drum machine ? steal it, test it for 2 years, and then give the dealer his money ?

all this piracy stuff is because you cannot hold software-prgs in you hand. and just because of this it´s legit?

and if you want to learn, buy LE version and make the best of it !

get to know the value of things ! everything has become so damn easy ! chop a break? let it do the software ! and if the (cracked) software doesn´t do it correctly, complain in a forum about this wanky piece of shit!

people are working on software and they do need to get paid. the less people pay, the more the software/hardware/cocks costs.

i´m with you leedsman....


ps. before someone starts his f++k you blahblah style, this is my opinion! nothing more nothing less. no insulting special people here.

who do you report cracked software to for ableton?

we're totally out of the topic, friends.

the guy wants help for DENOUNCEMENT.

beware!!! this guy could be dangerous to you all silly fools that make official aknowledgements of your warez habits!

fear this era of denoucement. fear the vengeance of the justice's tool that is the envious citizen giving his brother to the rope just because of JEALOUSY.

logic_user99 wrote:

macmurphy wrote:

sacredgeometry wrote:and from experience i have witnessed over 50 of my friends going from cracked versions to payed....

You have 50 friends ? Really?

This thread is quite an interesting read.

Oi! Don't misquote me!

Oh ok, go on...

what a funny read...
paid owners get mad, becuase they paid while others don't. this can also cause the price of the software to go up, or the company to go out of business for lack of profit.

people using cracked software get mad, because people point out they are stealing, and no matter how much they rationalize what they are doing is "OK", but they really know what they are doing is wrong.

how do you think you would like it if someone stole your car, to "try before you buy"

this topic is so beat.

stealing is bad, why it takes 7 pages in a thread to get across a simple moral concept any 4 yr old should understand just baffles me.

monstrejumo wrote:fear the vengeance of the Justice's tool

What? Overzealous use of compression?

dphouse84 wrote:what a funny read...
paid owners get mad, becuase they paid while others don't. this can also cause the price of the software to go up, or the company to go out of business for lack of profit.

people using cracked software get mad, because people point out they are stealing, and no matter how much they rationalize what they are doing is "OK", but they really know what they are doing is wrong.

how do you think you would like it if someone stole your car, to "try before you buy"

this topic is so beat.

stealing is bad, why it takes 7 pages in a thread to get across a simple moral concept any 4 yr old should understand just baffles me.

+1

Another +1 here!!!!!!


I hate people that use cracked software. Back in the day you had to spend 3 or 4 g's just to get a decent sampler and do some of the things that a $400 or $500 program can do now. Instead of supporting the companies that make this possible, people abuse it by using cracks!!!!

Phuck that. All my software is legit!!!!

I admit to using a cracked version of 7, until I got the copy violation message. Then I bought it. I'm not justifying it, and I'm certainly not saying it was right. I have found, since buying it (and getting a new laptop) that I don't use cracked VSTs anymore. The main reason is reliability. Cracked software seems to cause a LOT of problems, and purchased software doesn't. It's simple. In the last month, I have purchased Ableton Suite 8, CamelPhat and Sylenth1. The other plugins I use are freeware, and I find my system to run a lot better than it ever did. Plus, I find myself concentrating on using the VSTs I have to better effect now.

monstrejumo wrote:
fear the vengeance of the Justice's tool




What? Overzealous use of compression?

ah ah, I thought we would soon be speaking of Justice when I was writing this

dphouse84 wrote:what a funny read...
paid owners get mad, becuase they paid while others don't. this can also cause the price of the software to go up, or the company to go out of business for lack of profit.

people using cracked software get mad, because people point out they are stealing, and no matter how much they rationalize what they are doing is "OK", but they really know what they are doing is wrong.

how do you think you would like it if someone stole your car, to "try before you buy"

this topic is so beat.

stealing is bad, why it takes 7 pages in a thread to get across a simple moral concept any 4 yr old should understand just baffles me.

i thought the topic was about a guy who steals complaining about other guys stealing the wrong type of stuff, and thats what a got my and other peoples backs up; the hypocrisy was self evident.

and no matter how you twist it, stealing in the digital realm, is not the same as stealing a handbag or a car or wallet. now if i could duplicate that car or wallet with its contents and pass them round to my friends, now thats a fair analogy.. if those friends didnt have me handing out the duplicates, its pretty likely they'd make do, or get the duplicates elsewhere. some might like the duplicates sooo much they go on to buy an original.

that said i'm totally legal, and proud of that fact, but i'm not gonna judge anyone who isnt, for whatever reason, and I dont think its anyone elses place to either. let he who is without sin cast the first scone, as my mother once said... go on cast it.