but i don't use macs myself, too. i only know dj noise right now who wouldn't give his mac away ever. then again, it's quite an old mac, and an old version of traktor he uses, as he trusts in those two, and doesn't want to update ever. he's quite famous here in switzerland.D K wrote:you eat lunch with dorksgjm wrote:[ at lunch today I asked the other 4 people at the table if they had heard of a band called Kraftwerk and not one of them had. These folks were in their mid 20's to late 30's in age all with University educations. Go figure.
Thats what I think too.not knowing kraftwerk is an amazing hole in your head, no matter what music you are into, or let's put it another way...gjm wrote:D K wrote:you eat lunch with dorksgjm wrote:[ at lunch today I asked the other 4 people at the table if they had heard of a band called Kraftwerk and not one of them had. These folks were in their mid 20's to late 30's in age all with University educations. Go figure.
GAFM ***H20nly wrote:Machinesworking wrote:if you ask me Kraftwerk are probably one of the most influential groups of the 20th century.
That's not something to be proud of.
Personally I think it's important to have at least a basic understanding of the history of modern music.
H20nly wrote:^ Les Paul was doing multitrack recording long before the 70's does knowing about him mean you don't have to know about Kraftwerk?
So they influenced some artists in a small portion of a much larger pie... the comment made implied that one doesn't know anything about the history of modern music if they don't know Kraftwerk.
I call bullshit.
that list is silly... 'Morbid Angel' ?! 'xray specs' ?! 'beat happening' ?! seriously?!...gjm wrote:this list
gjm wrote: Yes, you are being myopic. Try making the same statement on a non electronic centric music forum.
Nothing small about electronic music, and I still stand by my statement. I'm sorry, but as a musician, especially a musician playing modern music, it shows a lack of history, period.And I'm the one not making much sense, holy moly, you were the one who had to clarify what you meant by 'Modern Music.' Oh, I did not mean ALL music, I just meant the small electronic segment, not music in general from the modern era. H20nly started in on you at the top of this page but you did not clarify then. You made a generalized sweeping statement without thinking about what you were saying.
Already stated that as non musicians it's not surprising that people wouldn't know who they are, but for musicians I think it shows a lack of history. Why is this a bone of contention? I suppose the word basic is a bit harsh, but we're not talking about some big name in electronic music back in the day, we're talking about people who changed music permanently. When some guy informed me that punk started more with Blue Cheer, MC5 and the Stooges, I went and researched them, I didn't argue semantics on the interwebs?Where on earth did you get the idea I was proud of not knowing who Kraftwerk are. I am amazed at that. However, at lunch today I asked the other 4 people at the table if they had heard of a band called Kraftwerk and not one of them had. These folks were in their mid 20's to late 30's in age all with University educations. Go figure.
I feel the same way, but am ashamed to admit due to the ridicule from all the fanbois.ThrowAway wrote:Am I the only one here who thinks kraftewerk is utter shit? yeah maybe they were a head of their time or some other shit like that but they suck, its not even bare-able to listen to.
You have every right to disagree, but Black Sabbath were just as innovative and original with as wide reaching influence.SubFunk wrote: i could not think of a more outstanding and innovative / influential band from the 21th century.
You don't have to like the music to appreciate their influence. I'm not a fan of the Ramones, but if I played punk I certainly wouldn't call the Ramones music utter shit.pulsoc wrote:I feel the same way, but am ashamed to admit due to the ridicule from all the fanbois.ThrowAway wrote:Am I the only one here who thinks kraftewerk is utter shit? yeah maybe they were a head of their time or some other shit like that but they suck, its not even bare-able to listen to.
i absolutely agree that many bands or musicians did severe influential work...Machinesworking wrote:You have every right to disagree, but Black Sabbath were just as innovative and original with as wide reaching influence.SubFunk wrote: i could not think of a more outstanding and innovative / influential band from the 21th century.
The Ramones as well. Cool thing about Kraftwerk was they were using new tools, also Trans Europe Express, Man Machine and Computer World sound great to this day IMO, unlike most electronic music from the 80's, it's not dated by the crappy 80's production and vocal style.
GAFM ***I like a lot of electronic music. Their work is at the bottom of my list, below even tiesto,sasha and digweed. Its worse than garbage, its cringeworthy elevator music at best.Machinesworking wrote: You don't have to like the music to appreciate their influence. I'm not a fan of the Ramones, but if I played punk I certainly wouldn't call the Ramones music utter shit.
Anytime you use break beats and other more organic funk/rock elements in electronic music, you're just doing something Kraftwerk did 35 years ago.
