why are there fights on the ableton forum

[Tarekith]

Puppy

[eyeknow]

Two words: Paris Hilton

Two more words: Purse puppy

Two more words, skanky ho

[regretfullySaid]

goddamn that is just fucking adorable

[steko]

Yep!!!

[regretfullySaid]

to paraphrase Chinese expression 'you just wanna eat him up'

[eyeknow]

to paraphrase Chinese expression 'you just wanna eat him up'

Oh, that's just in other countries.

[regretfullySaid]

Eh?

[H20nly]

that is one cute damn puppy!

could taste delicious with green onions and lo mein!

[eyeknow]

haha!

That's terrible, I mean hysterical.....

[re:dream]

Does a dog's personality correlate with its size?

http://www.behav.org/00library/articles ... nality.pdf

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ad ... ne.0054907

http://io9.com/does-your-dogs-breed-rea ... 1543999674

tl;dr ->

There appears to be a lot of evidence that some kinds of behaviours- hunting, herding, etc is correlated with breed.

But that's not the same as personality.

According to the AABS study, there is broad agreement that it is possible to define different personality types in dogs. These relate to traits such as sociability, aggressiveness, fearfulness, etc.

But there is limited evidence that these traits correlate much with breed anyway.

One important and strong finding is that in puppies is not a strong predictor of personality in the adult dogs. In other words, socialization and training count for a lot in dogs.

But we knew that.

So I would say there is little evidence for personality (in dogs) being correlated with size (in dogs)

What about dog size & personality in owners?

I will report back in due course

[TomViolenz]

I am not a small dog person (under 30 lbs), and I don't connect with many small dog owners, and I attempt to be a rather friendly and outgoing person most of the time, and always when in my professional work persona, however, Jack Russell Terriers are notably cool, smart, and cute.

I don't own and probably never will own a small dog, but I don't think there's any, zero in fact, connection between small dog owners and a type of person. It's actually that sort of logic that's so inherently wrong with this sort of thing. Think the idea all the way through and you can't possibly conclude that a type of pet is inherent to a type of personality. If you don't think it through, you come to conclusions based on anecdotal evidence and selection bias, and the world devolves a little more.

Lol, you don't have a very good observational sense then do you

(And yes, I'm with Shadx, the small dogs (and their owners) I am referring to fit into a purse and are what I classify as ankle biters.

It is common knowledge btw. that these small dogs have behavioral disorders akin to a perpetualy overcompensated low self esteem. That usually goes for their owners as well.

[TomViolenz]

In theory you are 100% correct! in practice, I invite you you to small dog hour at our dog park, and see if you can still maintain that view. I had it initially, and maybe it is the stereotype backlash I get having a Shepard, but it is an understood phenomenon at our dog park, that the small dog owners are not as welcoming, or as relaxed, and have more instances of conflict, than the rest. It should not be that way based on sane conventional logic, but it just seems to unfold that way.

This is a great example of what I'm talking about. A dog park in CA, USA, in a specific neighborhood, in a specific culture, is indicative of a type of person universally.

One of the most friendly outgoing happy girls I know has one of the smallest, most angry dogs I've met.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias

I think I know what is happening here: You are so invested (as you should be) in maintaining that race in humans is not a predictive category, that you have the need to extend that to dogs as well.
Doesn't work though as the differences in dog races are not just skin deep.

BTW: You are pointing to selection bias, which is apt but not in the way you think it is. The dog owners select the kind of dog they want. So different sort of people select different sorts of dogs, making the dog they own a good representation of the type of person they are.

[TomViolenz]

Puppy

Awwwwwwww

[Machinesworking]

Lol, you don't have a very good observational sense then do you

(And yes, I'm with Shadx, the small dogs (and their owners) I am referring to fit into a purse and are what I classify as ankle biters.

It is common knowledge btw. that these small dogs have behavioral disorders akin to a perpetualy overcompensated low self esteem. That usually goes for their owners as well.

Your conclusions are essentially what's wrong with people these days, their "observational sense" takes precedent over evidence.
I have met many dog owners that hate cats, therefore I can say that most dog owners are cat haters. <-- It's an observation that has no real basis in scientific evidence, it's just anecdotal, and serves no real purpose but to discredit dog owners.

Consider taking the same train of thought into people and this logic is the basis of all prejudice really.
'I have met many indians that smell like curry, most indians don't bathe enough.'
'I have observed many young black males in ghettos, and many of them are thieves. I don't trust young black men.'
There is no subjective difference in the "evidence" presented and the conclusion reached, it's just that when it comes to skin color in regards to an ethnic group, you would never come to such anecdotal conclusions.

[Machinesworking]

One of the most friendly outgoing happy girls I know has one of the smallest, most angry dogs I've met.

BTW: You are pointing to selection bias, which is apt but not in the way you think it is. The dog owners select the kind of dog they want. So different sort of people select different sorts of dogs, making the dog they own a good representation of the type of person they are.

I'll just leave this here, because you're so invested in your conclusion, you quoted evidence contradicting it, and continued to keep at it.