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TomViolenz wrote:sign up with CD Baby

beats me wrote:My roommate got his tracks on iTunes and Amazon through tunecore.com, looks like they also get your music on Spotify and other services. It wasn’t free but the prices are reasonable.

the link below tells you how to get your music on Spotify...

scroll down to the list of Aggregators for maximum




http://www.spotifyartists.com/guides/?_ ... ggregators

BaronVonAbelDong wrote:

TomViolenz wrote: I'm not sure why you think this is about you.
I made no such indication.

And concerning what I'll do: I outlined my thought on this in my first response to you. I don't have a more detailed plan yet. Making commercially viable music would have to come first though.

If it helps, the reason I thought it was about the Warner details (not me) was because it appeared to be in reference to data collection and spying on fans... it came after that post. It's an easy assumption to make and apologies if it was incorrect. Not sure what you were meaning if it wasn't about that.

Sure that's what it was about, but why would you take my response personally

ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends wrote:the question though should be, once you remove your video from youtube, youtube can no longer use it or allow anyone else to use it?

so, the individual can opt out of any rights by removing it from there account,no? that way, if you dont agree your video being used by youtube for some other party, boom....delete your video and its no longer youtubes.

"8.2 The above licenses granted by you in Content terminate when you remove or delete your Content from the Website."

That takes all the fun out of that one then...

H20nly wrote:yes, but they would take a cut and that's so unfair to you as an artist.

Way to misrepresent my position

beats me wrote:My roommate got his tracks on iTunes and Amazon through tunecore.com, looks like they also get your music on Spotify and other services. It wasn’t free but the prices are reasonable.

Yeah that's the sort of services I mean. I think CD Baby does that too. But I would have to see if it allows me to opt out of Spotify.

TomViolenz wrote:

BaronVonAbelDong wrote:

TomViolenz wrote: I'm not sure why you think this is about you.
I made no such indication.

And concerning what I'll do: I outlined my thought on this in my first response to you. I don't have a more detailed plan yet. Making commercially viable music would have to come first though.

If it helps, the reason I thought it was about the Warner details (not me) was because it appeared to be in reference to data collection and spying on fans... it came after that post. It's an easy assumption to make and apologies if it was incorrect. Not sure what you were meaning if it wasn't about that.

Sure that's what it was about, but why would you take my response personally

I didn't mate.

I was agreeing with you and saying that spying on people is not what I want or suggesting you wanted. Simply what is useful for a company like Warner.

TomViolenz wrote:Way to misrepresent my position

your position is too staunch.

it would be fine if artists were only allowed to pick one way to make money off their music.

did you check out the link i posted at the top of the page?

ohigetbywithalittlehelpfrommyfriends wrote:

TomViolenz wrote:

beats me wrote:My roommate got his tracks on iTunes and Amazon through tunecore.com, looks like they also get your music on Spotify and other services. It wasn’t free but the prices are reasonable.

Yeah that's the sort of services I mean. I think CD Baby does that too. But I would have to see if it allows me to opt out of Spotify.

"You can remove your content from any or all stores, at any time (at no charge). "
http://help.tunecore.com/app/answers/de ... dE1INm0%3D

there you go, ANY or ALL.

Good to know

TomViolenz wrote:

beats me wrote:My roommate got his tracks on iTunes and Amazon through tunecore.com, looks like they also get your music on Spotify and other services. It wasn’t free but the prices are reasonable.

Yeah that's the sort of services I mean. I think CD Baby does that too. But I would have to see if it allows me to opt out of Spotify.

I don’t know why you would opt out of anything that might have new people discover your music or share it with others.

H20nly wrote: did you check out the link i posted at the top of the page?

I remember that I checked into these sort of sevices when my first album was done. But in the end for that one it just didn't seem sensible. I still like it, but commercialy viable it is not. So it's still free for everyone to strem from my soundcloud.

What I remember from back then is that overall CD Baby had one of the best reputations of being honest, realiable and generally being a good deal..
They also provide addidtional services like a store front etc.. So I kinda stuck with my mind on CD Baby from then on. I will check on this again when new material is done on my side.

There is lots do do though, so that's just part of it. Setting up a website, somehow getting a following (considering I hate social media, ...hm, I guess something has to give... ), making a video etc.

But time will tell.

beats me wrote:

TomViolenz wrote:

beats me wrote:My roommate got his tracks on iTunes and Amazon through tunecore.com, looks like they also get your music on Spotify and other services. It wasn’t free but the prices are reasonable.

Yeah that's the sort of services I mean. I think CD Baby does that too. But I would have to see if it allows me to opt out of Spotify.

I don’t know why you would opt out of anything that might have new people discover your music or share it with others.

It's all mentioned in this thread already, I'm not gonna get into it again.

If Taylor Swift is pulling out of Spotify, then I'm pulling out of Taylor Swift...

So, if we can opt out of Spotify and all streaming. What is seen as the true benefit of that? In real terms, not simply 'Spotify are decimating the industry', that's a personal stance and I respect it. What end result are people hoping to gain? Strictly more money?

There's so much music out there that we usually get one shot, to get a listener to decide we are worth more of their time. Seconds even.

Surely unless you are in their pocket, on their gizmo, on their preferred format to meet and greet us and our wares, accessible at any moment, we're doing ourselves an injustice? Or am I just dense?

Is the idea that not being on Spotify will encourage/force me come to the artist's preferred way of delivering the product and accept that as the only way to listen? I need to know that I like it enough to bother first. Where do I engage with the music then? The radio? Too random.

I get the decision if it's for non financial reasons. Vinyl only... whatever.

I have done that and missed out on a bunch of digital revenue in the process. Sure, it's all underground and what not, but in this thread we're talking about financial survival no? Would also selling digital have lowered the vinyl sales... the stats resulted in no.

But that's hindsight and I lost out. If I can avoid that in the future then great. It's why I'm pissing myself off typing/sharing this even...

Don't we need (only in the case of maximising financial returns) to be on everyone's preferred music format? What's the perceived/real benefit from blanking streaming services?