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supster
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Post by supster » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:29 am

AdamJay wrote:
supster wrote:
Multi-track warping.... whoah.

this I am really interested in: Adam can you explain this a bit further?
its actually very simple.

select all the audio clips you want to warp together. (select the first, then hold down shift... select the last. or, if they arent consecutive.. do the apple or cmd+click on them to select various ones in your set)

then just edit the warp markers. it will show you editing the last clip selected, but the edits you make will be made on all clips you have selected.

ok cool, thanks. this is kind of what i thought


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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:30 am

Cool!

Last night, while looking at the now long gone M-Audio info, I was sure that I'd pass this one up. But now... Bring it on! This looks like great stuff.

:D :D :D

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Post by supster » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:32 am

forge wrote: sadly though, still no solo in place for group tracks :cry:

I REALLY whinged about that, but apparently they thought it would be straight forward so they scheduled it late in the game, then it turned out it wasnt going to be as straight forward so it didnt make the cut

ouch, yeah thats a big one.

I was really not pleased about it - so we can only hope it comes in a 6.x release i guess (i seem to have a vague memory that the other solo in placemay have crept in like that between releases)

i dont know - if they follow past pattern they are really reluctant to add any new features in interim upgrades.
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Post by hoffman2k » Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:25 am

supster wrote:
forge wrote: sadly though, still no solo in place for group tracks :cry:

I REALLY whinged about that, but apparently they thought it would be straight forward so they scheduled it late in the game, then it turned out it wasnt going to be as straight forward so it didnt make the cut

ouch, yeah thats a big one.

Though you can map one button/key to multiple solo's now. Even with reversed polarity.

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Post by AdamJay » Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:26 am

hoffman2k wrote:Though you can map one button/key to multiple solo's now. Even with reversed polarity.
so obvious, its too simple.

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Post by supster » Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:42 am

hoffman2k wrote:
supster wrote:
forge wrote: sadly though, still no solo in place for group tracks :cry:

I REALLY whinged about that, but apparently they thought it would be straight forward so they scheduled it late in the game, then it turned out it wasnt going to be as straight forward so it didnt make the cut

ouch, yeah thats a big one.

Though you can map one button/key to multiple solo's now. Even with reversed polarity.

oh :) this is looking better and better all the time ....

not quite the same because you are going to have to manually map them and set aside a key for each instance ... but definitely workable


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Post by nuperspective » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:08 am

have any of the standard fx been improved in live 6. such as the side chaining in the compressors. to help move us further away from third party vsts.

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Post by Zerobae » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:54 am

supster wrote:as an aside, everyone please note that Adam is now functioning on NO sleep whatsoever ... and more than likely will not be getting any for the forseeable future!! :lol:

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Yeah, I was thinking so too when I jumped out of bed this morning to check the Ableton forum. Must be darkest night where you're living Adam, or is the sun already rising?

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Post by hoffman2k » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:17 pm

supster wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:
supster wrote:
ouch, yeah thats a big one.

Though you can map one button/key to multiple solo's now. Even with reversed polarity.

oh :) this is looking better and better all the time ....

not quite the same because you are going to have to manually map them and set aside a key for each instance ... but definitely workable


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I can really come up with a perfectly reasonable explanation why "automatic" solo for groups would be a bitch (and damn near impossible) to implement.

Bare with me on this example:

In Live 6, every audo effect can have it's own output. Pre fx, post fx and mixer out.
So thats 3 audio outputs for every single device.
Say you have 10 beatrepeats stacked in parallel, to crossfade between them. (only one playing at the time. or mulitple..)
Each of those beatrepeats has 3 audio outputs.
This allows you to come up with uber-complex routing patterns that are miles away from basic track grouping.

Solo in place for grouped tracks would actually be a pain in the butt now. Live 6's ability to map mulitple MIDI controls made the need for that obsolete anyway.
It's less of a pain to select which solo's you want, then to have your tracks allligned in the correct combination.

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Post by Jed » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:18 pm

Johnisfaster wrote:no rewire slave can host plugins. it's not a limitation of live it's a limitation of the rewire protocol
Incorrect - FLS and P5 can both host VSTi's in rewire slave mode

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Post by illsub1 » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:09 pm

So what about the video? When you warp the audio does the video follow suit? Also how responsive is it when you are jumping around in arrangement? and how much cpu does the video use? I bet you could do some killer ghetto vjing if they do this right. Cheap projector for sale anyone?

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Post by lummux » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:15 pm

lummux wrote:Adam,

Many thanks for answering all these questions, however I have another one for you...

Is it now possible to have the click remain on when loading? i.e. is click status saved?
dunno if you missed this, but would really like to know if this has been addressed.

Ta

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Post by womoma » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:24 pm

I bet you could do some killer ghetto vjing if they do this right. Cheap projector for sale anyone?
Im curious about the video too.

Id like to be able to seamlessly jump to different sections of video, or mix between different video clips with some interesting transition effects.

I get the impression its not aimed in this direction, but rather is just for syncing to video for flash ads, soundtracks etc.

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Post by hoffman2k » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:32 pm

The video support is just simple quicktime support for people who score audio to video.
It's not a VJ thing.

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Post by Johnisfaster » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:54 pm

jed, you sure you're not talking about the fruityloops plugin version itself? cause I've always had the understanding that rewire slaves couldn't host plugs, only the master, but I know the fruityloops plugin version can host plugs
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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