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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:29 am
by supster
AdamJay wrote:
supster wrote:
Multi-track warping.... whoah.

this I am really interested in: Adam can you explain this a bit further?
its actually very simple.

select all the audio clips you want to warp together. (select the first, then hold down shift... select the last. or, if they arent consecutive.. do the apple or cmd+click on them to select various ones in your set)

then just edit the warp markers. it will show you editing the last clip selected, but the edits you make will be made on all clips you have selected.

ok cool, thanks. this is kind of what i thought


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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:30 am
by Lo-Fi Massahkah
Cool!

Last night, while looking at the now long gone M-Audio info, I was sure that I'd pass this one up. But now... Bring it on! This looks like great stuff.

:D :D :D

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:32 am
by supster
forge wrote: sadly though, still no solo in place for group tracks :cry:

I REALLY whinged about that, but apparently they thought it would be straight forward so they scheduled it late in the game, then it turned out it wasnt going to be as straight forward so it didnt make the cut

ouch, yeah thats a big one.

I was really not pleased about it - so we can only hope it comes in a 6.x release i guess (i seem to have a vague memory that the other solo in placemay have crept in like that between releases)

i dont know - if they follow past pattern they are really reluctant to add any new features in interim upgrades.
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:25 am
by hoffman2k
supster wrote:
forge wrote: sadly though, still no solo in place for group tracks :cry:

I REALLY whinged about that, but apparently they thought it would be straight forward so they scheduled it late in the game, then it turned out it wasnt going to be as straight forward so it didnt make the cut

ouch, yeah thats a big one.

Though you can map one button/key to multiple solo's now. Even with reversed polarity.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:26 am
by AdamJay
hoffman2k wrote:Though you can map one button/key to multiple solo's now. Even with reversed polarity.
so obvious, its too simple.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:42 am
by supster
hoffman2k wrote:
supster wrote:
forge wrote: sadly though, still no solo in place for group tracks :cry:

I REALLY whinged about that, but apparently they thought it would be straight forward so they scheduled it late in the game, then it turned out it wasnt going to be as straight forward so it didnt make the cut

ouch, yeah thats a big one.

Though you can map one button/key to multiple solo's now. Even with reversed polarity.

oh :) this is looking better and better all the time ....

not quite the same because you are going to have to manually map them and set aside a key for each instance ... but definitely workable


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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:08 am
by nuperspective
have any of the standard fx been improved in live 6. such as the side chaining in the compressors. to help move us further away from third party vsts.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:54 am
by Zerobae
supster wrote:as an aside, everyone please note that Adam is now functioning on NO sleep whatsoever ... and more than likely will not be getting any for the forseeable future!! :lol:

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Yeah, I was thinking so too when I jumped out of bed this morning to check the Ableton forum. Must be darkest night where you're living Adam, or is the sun already rising?

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:17 pm
by hoffman2k
supster wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:
supster wrote:
ouch, yeah thats a big one.

Though you can map one button/key to multiple solo's now. Even with reversed polarity.

oh :) this is looking better and better all the time ....

not quite the same because you are going to have to manually map them and set aside a key for each instance ... but definitely workable


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I can really come up with a perfectly reasonable explanation why "automatic" solo for groups would be a bitch (and damn near impossible) to implement.

Bare with me on this example:

In Live 6, every audo effect can have it's own output. Pre fx, post fx and mixer out.
So thats 3 audio outputs for every single device.
Say you have 10 beatrepeats stacked in parallel, to crossfade between them. (only one playing at the time. or mulitple..)
Each of those beatrepeats has 3 audio outputs.
This allows you to come up with uber-complex routing patterns that are miles away from basic track grouping.

Solo in place for grouped tracks would actually be a pain in the butt now. Live 6's ability to map mulitple MIDI controls made the need for that obsolete anyway.
It's less of a pain to select which solo's you want, then to have your tracks allligned in the correct combination.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:18 pm
by Jed
Johnisfaster wrote:no rewire slave can host plugins. it's not a limitation of live it's a limitation of the rewire protocol
Incorrect - FLS and P5 can both host VSTi's in rewire slave mode

Cheers
Jed

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:09 pm
by illsub1
So what about the video? When you warp the audio does the video follow suit? Also how responsive is it when you are jumping around in arrangement? and how much cpu does the video use? I bet you could do some killer ghetto vjing if they do this right. Cheap projector for sale anyone?

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:15 pm
by lummux
lummux wrote:Adam,

Many thanks for answering all these questions, however I have another one for you...

Is it now possible to have the click remain on when loading? i.e. is click status saved?
dunno if you missed this, but would really like to know if this has been addressed.

Ta

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:24 pm
by womoma
I bet you could do some killer ghetto vjing if they do this right. Cheap projector for sale anyone?
Im curious about the video too.

Id like to be able to seamlessly jump to different sections of video, or mix between different video clips with some interesting transition effects.

I get the impression its not aimed in this direction, but rather is just for syncing to video for flash ads, soundtracks etc.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:32 pm
by hoffman2k
The video support is just simple quicktime support for people who score audio to video.
It's not a VJ thing.

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:54 pm
by Johnisfaster
jed, you sure you're not talking about the fruityloops plugin version itself? cause I've always had the understanding that rewire slaves couldn't host plugs, only the master, but I know the fruityloops plugin version can host plugs