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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:35 pm
by b0unce
that director eventually came round to liking the situation, he's been quoted as saying he had loads of money and could make the movies as he wanted----so it actually turned out pretty well.

also, I've heard in the past few days they were thinking of stopping the luxuries you mention to NKorea. Obviously sanctions which effect his people wont bother him....but stop the brandy and mercs and he may come around.

ns.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:38 pm
by Kodama
robin wrote:
Kodama wrote:No, British all the way you limey tart!

:x
Tolerance my friend, tolerance.

:)

Just kidding!



- On giving nukes to Japan, can't be worse than subsidizing Isreal to kill people for the USA.

Well, China is our owner anyways, so they should just take care of it :roll:

Memory is a tricky thing

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:46 pm
by rasputin
Sorry, it was apparently the Hennessey Kim has the taste for, NOT Dom Perignon.

My abject apologies for slandering the Great Benevolent Protector of the Korean People.
Dr. Post, in his study of the Korean dictator, says Kim Jong Il also loves to drink a certain Hennessey cognac that sells for $630 a bottle in Korea. "He is the largest customer over the last 10 years, averaging between $650,000 and $720,000 a year in purchases -- while the average [North] Korean earns only about $900 a year
."

That from a 2003 CNN article about him
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/08/wbr.kim.jong.il/

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:49 pm
by knotkranky
Here is some stuff from the Times this morn. Anybody feeling a little panicked can relax for a while. The letters are good too. I'm not so scared right now, but I am eager to pound away at the idiot foreign policy. The GOP is a world wide nightmare. We can boot them this november.




Even if Device Was Flawed, Test Crossed a Threshold
By Greg Miller and Karen Kaplan
Times Staff Writers

October 10, 2006

WASHINGTON — Shock waves emanating from North Korea on Monday probably came from the explosion of a nuclear device, but one that did not achieve its full potential because of a failure or a design flaw, U.S. intelligence officials and weapons experts said.

Analysts believe the explosion produced about 3% of the power of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki more than 60 years ago, raising questions about whether a bigger device malfunctioned, or the regime in Pyongyang was testing only a component of a larger weapon.

The combination of the low strength of the explosion and the failure in July of a missile test over the Sea of Japan is likely to reinforce intelligence assessments that North Korea remains years away from developing a nuclear warhead that could be fitted to a missile and delivered any significant distance, let alone to the shores of the United States.

Whole thing http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... -headlines


Bush policies triggered North Korean nuke

October 10, 2006

Re "N. Korea Declares Nuclear Test," Oct. 9

It is clear that the Bush administration has no desire to find a diplomatic solution to North Korea's nuclear testing. President Bush has ignored repeated offers by North Korea to hold talks about its nuclear policy. What hypocrisy! The U.S. demands that North Korea stop testing while we continue to expand our arsenal of thousands of nukes. North Korea is the world's eighth declared nuclear power, not the first. The only way to reduce the threat of nuclear weapons is for the U.S. to initiate global nuclear disarmament. That means banning all nuclear weapons in all countries.

TANJA WINTER

La Jolla





Suppose you were North Korea and President Bush put you into his "axis of evil," along with Iraq and Iran. You saw him invade Iraq, kill tens of thousands of its people and change its government. Then he began following the same pattern with Iran. Meanwhile, Bush refused to talk to you directly about your nuclear program. Wouldn't you develop and test a nuke to defend yourself? Thanks to Bush's dangerous policies, the chickens have come home to roost.

MARJORIE COHN

President-elect

National Lawyers Guild

San Diego




Since late 2002 — when the United States was still ratcheting up its rhetoric and getting ready to wage war on Iraq, when U.S. Secretary of State Colin L. Powell was flashing blurred pictures before the U.N. Security Council and when French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and France were the sole hope for sanity — it was widely predicted in international intelligence circles that a nuclear North Korea and a nuclear Iran would be the inevitable consequence of the Bush-led war on Iraq.

It was also inevitable that such a war on a largely secular state such as Iraq — which has not violated human rights much more than nations such as Pakistan, China, Russia and India — would set in motion a geographic expansion with a proportionate deepening of Islamic extremism and terrorism. Particularly as the epicenter of such terrorism and nuclear proliferation — Pakistan — was being entirely bypassed. As always, a hapless world must lie on a bed made by the United States and its staunch allies.

S. SUCHINDRANATH AIYER

Bangalore, India

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:20 pm
by mikemc
The combination of the low strength of the explosion and the failure in July of a missile test over the Sea of Japan is likely to reinforce intelligence assessments that North Korea remains years away from developing a nuclear warhead that could be fitted to a missile and delivered any significant distance, let alone to the shores of the United States.
but of course that's not the issue. the issue is if could it fit in a shipping container or in the back of a pickup truck.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:42 pm
by knotkranky
Damn good point.

Hmm, I'm curious on the tech to pull off a shipping container nuclear bomb now. I would suppose a dirty bomb might be first pick, though I can't imagine Kim jong bombing Long beach harbor and threatening Hollywood, and his favorite stars.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:26 pm
by djadonis206
knotkranky wrote:Damn good point.

Hmm...I can't imagine Kim jong bombing Long beach harbor and threatening Hollywood, and his favorite stars.
Doubt it - if you remember in 2004 he invited Alec Baldwin and other members in the F.A.G. organization to a thing he did is North Korea

Heard there were a couple of hang ups but things went pretty smooth

Kim Jong Ill - Hello

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:47 pm
by knotkranky
djadonis206 wrote:
knotkranky wrote:Damn good point.

Hmm...I can't imagine Kim jong bombing Long beach harbor and threatening Hollywood, and his favorite stars.
Doubt it - if you remember in 2004 he invited Alec Baldwin and other members in the F.A.G. organization to a thing he did is North Korea

Heard there were a couple of hang ups but things went pretty smooth

Kim Jong Ill - Hello
lmao,...Another damn good point. Ok, I just mailed this to the NK.gov site. This should help things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6eOrVcU ... ed&search=

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:48 pm
by Kodama
djadonis206 wrote:
knotkranky wrote:Damn good point.

Hmm...I can't imagine Kim jong bombing Long beach harbor and threatening Hollywood, and his favorite stars.
Doubt it - if you remember in 2004 he invited Alec Baldwin and other members in the F.A.G. organization to a thing he did is North Korea

Heard there were a couple of hang ups but things went pretty smooth

Kim Jong Ill - Hello

I love how the creators of South park love to villify people in Hollywood for using their voice to oppose certain politcal ideals and they themselves are directors who are using their voice to oppose certain politcal ideals....

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:52 pm
by knotkranky
Uh oh, you're not knocking our beloved south park creators I trust 8O

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:53 pm
by Kodama
Team America is hillarious!

Just calling them on their crap.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:59 pm
by knotkranky
Kodama wrote:Team America is hillarious!

Just calling them on their crap.
You mean....Image?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:00 pm
by pulsoc
subterFUSE wrote:The question is.... how do you get China to help? They have been unwilling to do so for years. China benefits from instability in the region. That is why they have not been helping. So how do we change this?

The answer is by giving nukes to Japan. Do that, and suddenly China has a rather vested interest in preventing conflict in the region.
Or maybe we should cut off the supply off wealth to China - from the American consumer.

Or would that be unpatriotic?

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:00 pm
by robin
Kodama wrote:
Just kidding!


:D

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:38 pm
by subterFUSE
pulsoc wrote:
subterFUSE wrote:The question is.... how do you get China to help? They have been unwilling to do so for years. China benefits from instability in the region. That is why they have not been helping. So how do we change this?

The answer is by giving nukes to Japan. Do that, and suddenly China has a rather vested interest in preventing conflict in the region.
Or maybe we should cut off the supply off wealth to China - from the American consumer.

Or would that be unpatriotic?

That affects us economically, and it's too hard to implement quickly.

Giving nukes to Japan is a quick fix.... and doesn't harm our own interests.