iPad

[beats me]

I think the new iPad Pro stylus is going to replace the glowing Apple logo as the new smug, hipsters at coffee shops writing and drawing away for every possible function. FACT.

[Tarekith]

More importantly, it would suck if all current apps would have to be updated or reprogrammed with iPad Pro in mind (if the developers even bother to do it).

A few different developers on the Audiobus forums have already said this would be the case if you want to take full advantage of the new display size.

[BoddAH]

More importantly, it would suck if all current apps would have to be updated or reprogrammed with iPad Pro in mind (if the developers even bother to do it).

A few different developers on the Audiobus forums have already said this would be the case if you want to take full advantage of the new display size.

True, utilizing the entire screen real estate would be awesome for some apps but being able tu run two music apps side by side at native resolution without even needing to rescale ou update anything could really have its uses as well. A synth and a DAW/sequencer app for instance.

[beats me]

WHEN THE FUCK IS APPLE GOING TO RELEASE THEIR MOBILE LINEUP THAT IS ALL ON THE SAME TECH PAGE?!?

The new i@#$* has a retina display! The new i%*^ does not.

The new i%&$ has the highest end camera on the market! The new i%*#&& does not.

The new i*%*$ has a lightening port! The new %&(#( does not.

The new i%**#* has Touch ID! The new i(@*$** does not.

The new i%*#($^* has landscape home screen. The new i$*%@#$ does not.

The new i$$&#* has split screen! The new i%#*$% does not.

The new i$#*@ has 3D Touch! The new i%*@#$ does not.

[beats me]

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/1c82eb ... 4cg.nlsvge

[TomViolenz]

The iPad Pro is the first iPad I crave
I think with it's bigger size it hits a sweet spot were interacting with all the good music apps will not feel like a chore, especially if you can run two side by side. Like with vsts in a DAW. (just without covering everything else up that's behind it)

What I would really like to see is DAW like apps that let you draw in automation with the pencil. This is a sort of workflow that always looked very intuitive to me.

What I would have liked to see even more though, would have been a real iPad Pro with Intel chips, lots of RAM and a new touch optimized OSX.

[beats me]

What I would really like to see is DAW like apps that let you draw in automation with the pencil. This is a sort of workflow that always looked very intuitive to me.

You can already do this with a stylus that costs less than $10. I don't know about other DAW apps but you can draw in automation on Gadget.

The question is are developers going to recode their apps to take advantage of the larger screen are is the GUI just going to be bigger. NI already coded Traktor so the GUI is different between the iPad and the iPad Mini. I imagine they are to do something pretty slick for the iPad Pro. You'll probably reasonably be able to make an iPad Pro your entire DJ hardware setup which will be a bargain considering what DJ hardware and maximum function controllers cost.

AS far as a single OS across computers and mobile devices, it sounds like Microsoft is already on it and I haven't heard anything staggeringly awesome about it.

[TomViolenz]

What I would really like to see is DAW like apps that let you draw in automation with the pencil. This is a sort of workflow that always looked very intuitive to me.

You can already do this with a stylus that costs less than $10. I don't know about other DAW apps but you can draw in automation on Gadget.

The question is are developers going to recode their apps to take advantage of the larger screen are is the GUI just going to be bigger. NI already coded Traktor so the GUI is different between the iPad and the iPad Mini. I imagine they are to do something pretty slick for the iPad Pro. You'll probably reasonably be able to make an iPad Pro your entire DJ hardware setup which will be a bargain considering what DJ hardware and maximum function controllers cost.

AS far as a single OS across computers and mobile devices, it sounds like Microsoft is already on it and I haven't heard anything staggeringly awesome about it.

I hear people are quite happy with the last surface pros.
But of course one of the big advantages of the surface (it can run all the legacy apps of Windows) is also a major downside, since these old apps are not touch or pen optimized. And since they already run on the surface, there will be less of a push to make new touch/pen optimized versions.

But for Apple it's a bit different. There are so many good iOS apps already, that if they would somehow manage to run on the iPad Pro both legacy OSX apps plus all the iOS apps, without there being a noticable border between them, they could offer the best of both worlds. Especially since many OSX programs already come with some sort of iOS companion app, so these companies are already half way there. But they would need a transparent way to interact. So a real filesystem that both use would be paramount to the success.

But even if it's not about having OSX on a tablet, the additional horsepower of Intel chips and lots of RAM would be very good for music apps anyways.

Anyways, I'm just musing. Can't afford either atm.

[TomViolenz]

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/ad ... gb-of-ram/

Ok so it comes with 4GB of RAM. Not too shabby

[beats me]

As far as the Surface goes there’s a big difference between “happy with it” and “only good as a touch screen for business applications and social media”, granted those uses probably cover 95% of users.

I think Garageband and Traktor are going to set the bar for what can be done with music on an iPad Pro. Using the current low bar set by Windows on a touch screen I’m sure those users think they would be content just navigating the desktop interface for Traktor on a touch screen, but iOS forces developers to develop for a touch screen and take advantage of that kind of user interface. In a lot of ways it’s a different way of thinking, especially with multi-touch.

[yur2die4]

Yeah but the question is, if they are not willing to cross the bridge into OS X, how much depth are developers willing to allow within their apps?

With a DAW, you can very flexibly add vsts and putting. Media in, outputting media is relatively smooth. Plus you can deal with hard drives pretty easily.

These sound like common sense features. iOS throws a wrench in all of that.

Because of this apps, even on a pro, will still be treated as apps. You do not get the flexibility of a kind of hierarchy of folders, organization, multiple programs multitasking. It has multitasking, but you'll quickly reach the limit for what feels comfortable.

Given these limitations, how far would developers really want to go with software on a device that might not gain steam, and knowing that the software will be expected to be a 10th of the price of a professional version just a step up on a much more open platform?

[BoddAH]

It's only a matter of time before iOS becomes a full fledged alternative, or even a successor of OS X as a professional "main" music making OS.

iPad Pro is already dangerously approaching Desktop/Notebook levels of sheer processing power. With a big screen that makes it just as, if not more usable than a desktop or laptop screen (with powerful added multitouch funktionality) it's not unreasonable to expect Ableton, Propellerhead, Apple (obviously) and other to develop and release actual full versions of their DAWs working on iOS pretty soon.

These DAWs would include Audiobus-like inter-app (only even more powerful and flexible) audio streaming capabilities and Synth and Effect Apps a la iElectribe, Thor or Filtatron would eventually replace VSTs.

Who knows, maybe in 5 or ten years OS X will really be a thing of the past.

[TomViolenz]

Yeah, I too think OSX and iOS will merge in the next 5-10 years.

I just hope this doesn't mean that we will lose any of the advantages of either. (I think we will though, as the computer as an applience direction Apple are taking the iMac and MacBook Pro indicates. )

I think Microsoft are going about it in a sensible way, it's just that they have the big disadvantage of not having a vibrant mobile/touch friendly eco-system (yet?).

For which they only have themselves to blame. They had the first mobile OS out a decade before Apple and did NOTHING with it. And even after the iPhone and iOS came out (and soon after that Android) they still wasted 5 some years before they released WindowsPhone...

[stringtapper]

So I guess you guys haven't heard that Swift has replaced Objective-C as Apple's OS programming platform?

Swift is what in all likelihood is a first step toward the eventual merging of OS X and iOS as it unifies the processes behind coding for both OSes even more than Objective-C did.

[beats me]

I’m getting the new Apple TV if for no other reason than the YouTube app. The YouTube app disappeared off my 2nd gen Apple TV years ago and I thought it had something to do with the fighting between Google and Apple, but I just found out the 3rd gen Apple TV has had the YouTube app. WTF? Is that one of those Apple-esque “just because we can” upgrade incentives?

Didn’t really bother me before because I didn’t really start subscribing to YouTube channels until this year. It’s going to be a great workflow improver watching tutorials on my 55” TV while applying the info on my iMac instead of watching the tutorials on the tiny small iPad screen while confusing myself with the wrong operational gestures, touching my iMac screen like it’s a touch screen or trying to pause the video on my iPad with the spacebar on the iMac keyboard.