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Timbaland effect?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:48 pm
by blingstef
I would like to achieve the same effect used on the main synth melody you can hear in the song ''my love'' by justin timberlake and t.i. (just youtube it and you could listen to it).
Can somebody help me achieve this effect? Thank you in advance.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:51 pm
by ollyb303
8O

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:10 pm
by re.mark
2 saws detuned. beatrepeat / cut volume envelope to taste add a bit of lowpass filter automation.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:21 pm
by re.mark
Took me 5 mins (including starting ableton)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/51658118a65b65ff/

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:39 pm
by blingstef
thank you i'll try that as soon as i get home

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:09 am
by blingstef
humm... i tried but I seem not to find the perfect combination... could you maybe post all the preset somehow? or explain it to me more clearly? I don't have 2 saw, i have 10 saws. does it make a difference? and i have been messing around with beat repeat and had no luck... thanks your help

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:32 am
by 4.33
blingstef wrote: I don't have 2 saw, i have 10 saws. does it make a difference?
YESSSS!!! TOTAL MASSACRE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:22 pm
by blingstef
so where can i find this ''2 saws detuned"

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:21 pm
by timbreland
you can get that exact sound with the softsynth vanguard. it was probably used for that song. i think it is a preset. the gate effect is done with the built in trancegate.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:42 pm
by re.mark
you want 2 saw waves detuned against each other.

1) load an instrument rack into a midi track
2) drag 2 'simpler's into the chain.
3) in the Live Devices column go simpler > components > spectral > and drag 'analogue saw' into both simplers in your rack.
4) detune one by about -17 (or to your taste - possible add spread too) - make sure you activate 'loop' too

thats one way to DIY with what youve got.
Or get Automat VST for free online (great lil free vst) and then on OSC 1 get up a saw wave, stack to two or three and detune.

Beat Repeat doesnt work too well without automating the gate.. but instead of that once you have a midi clip you can draw in your own volume automation (DIY gate really, but with your own pattern).

Will wack up an .als for you now......

Edit: PS - you can either add midi effect > chord and then just play one note with the right chord set, or play your own chords to taste.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:43 pm
by re.mark
timbreland wrote:you can get that exact sound with the softsynth vanguard. it was probably used for that song. i think it is a preset. the gate effect is done with the built in trancegate.
Its more fun to create your own though isnt it :D

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:38 am
by blingstef
Thank you all for your help i will try that and let you know

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:12 pm
by blingstef
re.mark wrote:yo

Will wack up an .als for you now......
ok... when you will be done plz let me know.... I tried your tricks but the result is not satisfying at all but... i am going to continue playing with the knobs and we'll see.

also i couldn't install automat because it's for mac users and i am still on pc ( :oops:) shame on me heh? (:lol:) neither vanguard because of the same problem.
if anyone can find the windows version plz let know... right now i am done searching (going to eat :lol: )

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:03 am
by bigbonthabeat
also if you have FM 8 (a native instruments VST), you can produce that same effect using the appregiator with any sound. In the appregiator they have a feature where you can pick the pattern you want to appregiate.