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Anybody have any reviews of MI?

I want to take my music production to the next level and learn more about music production and recording industry standards so I was wondering if getting the certificate from MI is worth it.

If you are a music producer, how did you get started?

lol. cats be making a killing selling a dream.

I have a friend who went there. He loved it. When I lived in LA, we used to go and have beers there all the time. Lots of students played in bands there, and actually had some jobs in studios and the like.

I haven't lived in LA since 04, but I'm guessing the school itself is still a fun booming place.

My only concern would be, "is there still an industry that supports an education like that."

I have two degrees myself, a BS in applied math, and a technical engineering degree...


Frankly, PM me, if you know of a good job...





Lately I've been thinking about becoming a border patrol agent...

With a degree you can make like $40,000 a year, certainly not a music degree... As a border patrol agent, you can make $70,000 a year.... All you have to do is worry about getting shot.

Want to study something?

Biology, aerospace, keep music a hobby... IF you're dying to spend ten thousand dollars. Invest in India

j2j wrote:Lately I've been thinking about becoming a border patrol agent...

giving up the dream of bank robbing, are you?!

dcease wrote:

j2j wrote:Lately I've been thinking about becoming a border patrol agent...

giving up the dream of bank robbing, are you?!

I go back n forth.... Outlaw, Policeman...


You can make a $130,000 a year cleaning up nuclear test sites, if your interested...

j2j wrote:

dcease wrote:

j2j wrote:Lately I've been thinking about becoming a border patrol agent...

giving up the dream of bank robbing, are you?!

I go back n forth.... Outlaw, Policeman...


You can make a $130,000 a year cleaning up nuclear test sites, if your interested...

hmmm... maybe i could develop superpowers!

dcease wrote:

j2j wrote:

dcease wrote:giving up the dream of bank robbing, are you?!

I go back n forth.... Outlaw, Policeman...


You can make a $130,000 a year cleaning up nuclear test sites, if your interested...

hmmm... maybe i could develop superpowers!

porn is the way to go

bosonHavoc wrote:

dcease wrote:

j2j wrote: I go back n forth.... Outlaw, Policeman...


You can make a $130,000 a year cleaning up nuclear test sites, if your interested...

hmmm... maybe i could develop superpowers!

porn is the way to go

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j2j wrote:
My only concern would be, "is there still an industry that supports an education like that."


Want to study something?

Biology, aerospace, keep music a hobby... IF you're dying to spend ten thousand dollars. Invest in India

Well, I have a good job. I would just like to pursue my passion more seriously. I was wondering if that kind of education would be worth it or can I learn the same things through my own research for free. I suppose I've never heard most big producers having had to go to schools like MI. On the other hand, the certificate would probably accelerate learning.

What do you mean, "is there still an industry that supports an education like that."?

There will always be a music industry, right?

I would just like to pursue my passion more seriously.

There is absolutely nothing wrong, with wanting to learn, and wanting to grow.

same things through my own research for free.

IMHO, there is a ton of misinformation about the art of music production, flying around on the web. There are a few nice books. There are also people on web-boards, giving advice on shit they don't know much about. Furthermore, they will claim to be serious authorities on the subject.

You can learn proper music production from studio pros, or schools. IMHO. You can pick up some stuff from books, and the amount of good books on music production, can be counted on your fingers and toes.*

( small exaggeration, but you catch my drift. * )

I suppose I've never heard most big producers having had to go to schools like MI.

In the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and 90s, most big pro's learned in studios. Schools popped up in 80s and 90s, I'm guessing.

Big major label studios, and studios with big budgets and big staff are disappearing fast.

That seems to be how schools are taking over.

I see nothing wrong with learning music production in a school environment. Tons of people all over the net would disagree.

What do you mean, "is there still an industry that supports an education like that."?

There will always be a music industry, right?

People will always want entertainment. Music will live with humanity till our species is extinct.

I'm not sure if there will be more days of superstars like Springsteen, Petty, Greatful dead, but its totally possible.

The record industry has been changing. It is far more complicated than it used to be.

j2j wrote:

You can pick up some stuff from books, and the amount of good books on music production, can be counted on your fingers and toes.*

Ok, so let's hear which ones you recommend.

Speak Easy wrote:Ok, so let's hear which ones you recommend.

Well,

What do you want to produce? Don't forget that the authors will be stylized. For example, "The Dance Music Manual," is completely different from,"Electronica Dance Music Programming Secrets," and, "Mixing Engineers Handbook," will be very different to, "Mixing With Your Mind."

If your passionate about this, I recommend a mix of school and studios. That is what I did, a great big mix. I spent time in pro studios, I took a mixing and production course at an accredited school, I'm a bit closer to my masters degree because of it. I've also read several books. I've have books all over my apartment, from music theory to djing, to mixing, to marketing, to history, to anything. I'm a big reader.

But I don't have a job in the music industry. I also make a total of $0.00 from my music. Maybe I'm just a talentless guy, with a love for music. Other people, certainly seem to have better luck with it.

If your looking for some good books on music, I totally enjoyed:

Electronica Dance Music Programming Secrets- Roger Brown

Jazz Theory and Practice- Richard Lawn, Jeff Hellmer

Computer Sound Design and Synthesis Programming Techniques- I forget the author, and I'm too lazy to go into the other room and grab the book.

Welches Synth Cookbook- Fred Welshe

How To write Songs on " --- " Its a three part series by Ricky Rooksby, your better off googling the author, and finding his books.

I thoroughly enjoyed a book titled, "how to dj right, the art and science of playing records."

I've read several ie far too many to list, books on the music industry, old and new, and marketing in general.

"Confessions of a Record Producer," seems to stick out....

There is also a book titled, "Behind the Glass," which is just a MUST READ....

But beyond the books....

I spent several years, with bands in practice and recording studios, watching and learning everything. I've tripped over to London, where I did a year worth of music tech schooling, and I've spent several hours of practice on my own.

I'm still no darren tate, or BT...




You know what?

I'm enjoying myself. I'm enjoying my music. Maybe I can find a future with it, sooner or later. But really, I'm just enjoying music....

So, that is a blessing. I love to be playing music...




( edit = spelling, continuity... )

j2j wrote:

Speak Easy wrote:Well,

What do you want to produce? Don't forget that the authors will be stylized. For example, "The Dance Music Manual," is completely different from,"Electronica Dance Music Programming Secrets," and, "Mixing Engineers Handbook," will be very different to, "Mixing With Your Mind."


I'm enjoying myself. I'm enjoying my music. Maybe I can find a future with it, sooner or later. But really, I'm just enjoying music....

So, that is a blessing. I love to be playing music...

I like making hip hop and r&b tracks. So if you recommend more books for that, let me know. But yeah, this is not about making money for me. It's about listening to something deeper inside that says I have to pursue this. I'm with ya...it is a blessing just to do this.

I'm headed over to the bookstore right now to check out some of those books.

Thanks.