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Simple enough question really; anyone using NI's Kontakt for their sampling/production needs?

What do you think of the library? How does it compare to what Live can do already/will be possible in Live 8?

i have komplete 5 but nearly never use kontakt. i find the workflow a bit lame but it`s potential is great of course. it`s a thing of taste. the library is great, but i use synths more often

I use Live 7 Suite download and Kontakt 2.

Indeed, Kontakt is a huge Programm, there are less consumptive samplers like sampletank. The great thing is, that a lot of libraries on the market use the kontakt player, which means, that you can use several libraries in one Programm (kontakt). you dont need to start so many sampleengines to work with the libraries.

Greez Bastian

Also if you are a Puremagnetik subscriber they often do Kontakt versions of their releases so you can use them in any DAW, like Logic, but they often do an ESX (I think that's Logic's sampler name) version also.

But I think Kontakt is the most comprehensive sampler and possibly industry standard. I think it's libraries are great but at the same time I'm not a huge collector of sample libraries.

Sorry I can't be more specific but in the past there has been many Kontakt comparison threads and I don't think anybody would discourage you from getting it. It's a good tool to have.

That's cool; thanks for the words, guys. If I can find anywhere that has it (now piggin' Arbiter have gone down the toilet) I may just have to get it!

I've toyed around with it but it's not really my cup of tea if you know what I mean. libraries are good, though.

It's been my sampler du jour for a couple years.

The stock library's pretty good, but most of it isn't really what I'm looking for; I rarely use strings, for example. On the other hand, third party library support's good, and I do a lot of converting from other formats using ESC or the Kontakt import.

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parisapartment wrote:I've toyed around with it but it's not really my cup of tea if you know what I mean. libraries are good, though.

Not really, no!

logic_user99 wrote:Simple enough question really; anyone using NI's Kontakt for their sampling/production needs?

What do you think of the library? How does it compare to what Live can do already/will be possible in Live 8?

I've got it, use it a lot, think it's great. I dig the library, the "vintage" section is huge and sounds great, the band stuff could be more fleshed out but what's there is awesome, like the upright bass samples and the jazz-brush kit.....

only complaint: to date Kontakt is the *only* VST I use that has sometimes crashed Live 7. It happened a couple times only, I think when I was swapping out instruments in Kontakt while the shit was still playing, it didn't like that....

As for comparing it to Live8's library, well we just don't know yet, do we....but I don't think the live8 library could render kontakt useless....

-M

Fieldy wrote:i have komplete 5 but nearly never use kontakt. i find the workflow a bit lame but it`s potential is great of course. it`s a thing of taste. the library is great, but i use synths more often

Is the library really that good? I've used Kontakt, Battery, and a variety of other samplers for years and have just never been interested in their libraries. My train of thought is that I just want the plug-in to edit my own samples. If they're actually good (in someone else's opinion), I'll consider actually installing them.

logic_user99 wrote:

parisapartment wrote:I've toyed around with it but it's not really my cup of tea if you know what I mean. libraries are good, though.

Not really, no!

parisapartment needs to go join in the Operator vs. FM8 discussion where everybody is blabbering on about the new Operator features in Live 8 and yet failing to mention any of those features.

beats me wrote:

logic_user99 wrote:

parisapartment wrote:I've toyed around with it but it's not really my cup of tea if you know what I mean. libraries are good, though.

Not really, no!

parisapartment needs to go join in the Operator vs. FM8 discussion where everybody is blabbering on about the new Operator features in Live 8 and yet failing to mention any of those features.

LoLz.

I was playing with the sample-mangling features in Battery 3 tonight. Made some really nice ambient, grindy, textural stuff. Pleased. Then it bugged out and some stupit shit happened; maaan, B3 is so buggy.

I use it, but honestly I'm lazy. I the past most of my sampler work was single hits, and Live can handle those just fine with a key command or assigned to a MIDI note, I use it for converting analog synths to software mainly, in conjunction with Redmaticas AutoSampler.

It's one I need to get further into. I went for years using mainly a sampler, and when I switched to Live, Live acts like a sampler really, even without buying 'Sampler', which I don't own currently.

logic_user99 wrote:Pleased. Then it bugged out and some stupit shit happened; maaan, B3 is so buggy.

Crossing fingers on this one, but for whatever reason I haven't experienced the B3 bugs.

I'm probably the only asshole on the planet that paid $300 for Battery 3. I bought Battery 2 for $200 only to find out it wasn't UB (remember those fun days?) and wouldn't work on my MBP. When I explained this both Guitar Center and NI gave me the finger, told me to wait for the release of Battery 3 a few months later, and then charged me the full upgrade price of $100. Not a fan.