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Problem with Warping...

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:53 pm
by brooka87
Hey Hey

I'm fairly new to ableton and so far the only problem that I've been having is this:

It's probably something stupid and can be easily fixed.

About 98 % of the songs I import into ABleton in Session View come up with a normal waveform with one yellow warp marker at the start. I can easily beat match this with other tracks that have that one yellow warp marker as well.

My problem is that occadionally I'll get a track that has a lot of the yellow warp markers. THEN if I try to beat match that track with ANY other track it goes out of sync.

Any Ideas on how to fix this so I can have the track with a crap load of yellow warp markers ..STAY in sync with all the other normal tracks?

Hope this wasn't to much of a dumb question, sorry if It was , I'm still learning haha.

cheers

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:52 pm
by Tarekith
You can't just rely on Live's default warping, you need to go in there and manually make sure all the markers are placed correctly. There's a section in the manual on this, as well as a Live lesson in the program that covers this as well. Additionally, try this:

http://abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6064

Re: Problem with Warping...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:05 am
by mijmah
Hey there, Im new to Ableton as well and I'm getting the same problem: some tracks appear with a load of unwanted warp markers all over them. The same tracks weren't appearing like this when I used them in Ableton 7 and they are from Beatport, so weren't altered before I downloaded them.
I even tried manually deleting them on one track and re-warping properly. I saved it, but when I next checked it had reverted to the old crappy warp markers.

Any help would be greatly appreciated ...

Re: Problem with Warping...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:29 pm
by roajah
Well that would because of ableton trying to detect certain frequencies like kicks, and sometimes it get's confused.
No software is that advanced so it recognises the exact start of each beat.
it is a easy fix. i do this everytime 200 markers appear.
after loading a track and activating warp, right click on the start marker and choose Warp from here straight. it will warp the track at the BPM between the marker you have chosen to warp from, and the next closest marker.
After that go manually.

I do like this [for drum and bass music (no software can warp drum and bass tracks properly).
load the track, activate the warp mode, delete unnecesary markers and keep marker no. 1. after that, i go with the beat. add a marker at the begining of the mainbeat, and i click and drag the gray marker at the begining of the 4'th beat loop. while i do that, i check the Seg. BPM because some tracks have a clear bpm like 178.00, 175.00 so it's easier to mattch it.
Another thing i do, is check the gray marker at the beggining of more distant loops. for example my beat starts at marker one and minute 1:24. then i check the marker after 2 3 minutes so it is exactly at the begining of the loop, if not, click and drag to fix it.
Then i delete my first marker and leave the one that iis at the begining at the first beat loop [it's good for knowing when the beat starts]

good luck and i hope you understand. if not, just message me
peace