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As the question says.

I'd think an Allen&Heath Xone:4D is best for use with Live, but I don't know if that's correct.

What are your opinions ?

Cheers

not much to say except that my friend here is using an Allan&Heath xone:3D and it leaves nothing else to ask for!

pirco wrote:not much to say except that my friend here is using an Allan&Heath xone:3D and it leaves nothing else to ask for!

OK, here's my doubt, completely explained:

I have the following hardware:

MIXER: PIONEER DJM-400
SOUNDCARD: M-AUDIO FIREWIRE 410
MIDI CONTROLLER 1: M-AUDIO O2
MIDI CONTROLLER 2: M-AUDIO EVOLUTION UC-33E

My question is:

WHAT DOES THE XONE:4D INCLUDE ?

- or, better: -

If I sold all the hardware listed in the upper lines, would a Xone:4D be able to cover all the features that all the listed hardware would cover?

in poor words: what does the XONE:4D include?

I have read more than 200 possible MIDI mappings, 2 MIDI controllers, a 20-channel soundcard.. it would replace all my hardware!

Is that correct?

i think apc40 akai is a very good mixer
it has faders for 8 tracks
every track with also 3 sends and pan and knobs for all effects
lot of knobs to press, really flexible
and a lot of knobs for controlling clips

and... way easier to take somewhere, it's not that huge as an allen and heath

and if you want allen and heath sound quality... you have 800 euro's left to spend on this

After looking at a few digital mixers, I picked up a Behringer DDM4000. After mapping all of the controls to things I use, it's become perfect for mixing in ableton. At a third of the price of a VCM600, it seemed like a no brainer. It also gives me the option to mix on the unit, instead of through Live if I choose (I'm only using it as a controller atm...) Great value for money, try this unit if you ever get the chance. It's ace

I would use an MPD 32- I know its not a mixer, but....its up there!

Ok, I've picked up some info about the mixers you told me.

But my question was:

can the XONE:4D (or :3D also) replace all the hardware I listed in my previous thread?

I mean: does it act like a MIDI controller, mixer & soundcard?

Tyrexionibus wrote:Ok, I've picked up some info about the mixers you told me.

But my question was:

can the XONE:4D (or :3D also) replace all the hardware I listed in my previous thread?

I mean: does it act like a MIDI controller, mixer & soundcard?

yes.... and because it;s all in one... it's difficult to travel with it

yes - but I'd rather suggest you buying NI's audio 8 + 2x xone1d, and a cheap mixer for bedroom usage. Imho, optimal choice would be nuo4 / 4.0... relatively cheap but still kickass

100 times more mobile and a lot more reliable, but it depends on the places u want to play - it may be better to buy all in one solution.

I would go with either the Ecler EVO 5 (full MIDI mapping and an excellent mixer, Ecler makes quality products) or the Allen & Heath Xone: 4D.

sherman wrote:After looking at a few digital mixers, I picked up a Behringer DDM4000. After mapping all of the controls to things I use, it's become perfect for mixing in ableton. At a third of the price of a VCM600, it seemed like a no brainer. It also gives me the option to mix on the unit, instead of through Live if I choose (I'm only using it as a controller atm...) Great value for money, try this unit if you ever get the chance. It's ace

I'm considering this as an option.

recently bought a mac and it only has 2 USB inputs so my controller and soundcard take both of those up.

Would the DDM4000 act as the soundcard and the mixer/controller and replace my current set up? The VCM-600 was my first choice but the shop I use for all my equipment doesn't have them in yet so I was looking for an alternative and this might just be it...

Kenny

the XONE 4D is good for what you looking for. the D/A konverter are better than in the other mixers. buy you a good flightcase and everything will be fine.
but your question : What mixer is best for use with Live? i don`t know...

Yeeeehaaaa7 wrote:recently bought a mac and it only has 2 USB inputs so my controller and soundcard take both of those up.

Would the DDM4000 act as the soundcard and the mixer/controller and replace my current set up? The VCM-600 was my first choice but the shop I use for all my equipment doesn't have them in yet so I was looking for an alternative and this might just be it...

Kenny

The DDM doesnt act as an audio interface. The only connection it has to your laptop are standard midi IN and OUT 8pin plugs, so you'll need an interface for them to use it as a controller. My audio interface has midi IN / OUT so, it actually frees up a USB port on my macbook

I'll post a pic of my mapping later for anyone that's interested. Still adding to it, but can already do a whole lot

"Best Mixer" really depends on what you are trying to achieve. Is this a DJ mixer? Studio mixer? Live electronic performance mixer? My personal preference (as all setups SHOULD be) is..... custom Doepfer thing I'm building + Korg Zero in one case and a Lemur + Novation ReMote SL Zero + Kore 2 packed into another case. Ask yourself what your specific needs are and then buy what fits the bill.

korg zero4 if you're doing traditional djing.