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8.0b16 Complex Pro warp engine problems;
saving too long.


I've noticed the problems with the warp engine in 8.0b16 version. When changed the two-bar loop (orig. 128 bpm) to play only with one step and then switched the warp engine to Complex Pro and transposed the loop to 4st, the output sound started to be sliced sometimes, randomly glitched, it's similar to the effect of accessing the drive/ buffering (the magic "D" letter in the right upper corner of the app).

The project BPM is 124, processor used: max. 30% (BTW the similar project in 7, with external VST synths takes max 20%!), 11 different tracks without external plug-in's, etc., just some lightweight loops, built-in synths, etc.

Another thing is that saving the project takes a loooooong time, after a few seconds the "Spinning Beach Ball of Death" appears for a half minute or more, which is a much longer than in 7 (i'm still talking about basic project with 11 tracks and 11 basic patterns).

My first tests with 8.0b16 was runned on my MacBook Intel Core2Duo 2,16, 2GB RAM, Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.6, without any external audio card (built-in MacBook's audio).

Cheers,
Jakub.

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Jakub Rene Kosik
live-act, producer, DJ
http://www.jrk.pl

Hi,

Can you try the same with beta 19? I think your problems should be fixed by now.

Regards,
Amaury

Hello Amaury,
i've tried with the beta 19,
unfortunately there's still a glitched sound. I think now it's more glitchy than in b16. It's sounds like some buffer underrun or etc.

Now saving the project is a little bit faster, but the opening takes much more time than before.

My tests are based on the same project (11 tracks with 11 basic patterns).

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Jakub.

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Jakub Rene Kosik
live-act, producer, DJ
http://www.jrk.pl

this thread came up in a search so i thought i'd post to it...i'm having some glitch/click issues with complex pro as well. when using follow actions to move through three clips (bass heavy, transposed copies of a single clip fwiw) i get a click at the change from one clip to the next. i moved the clips into arrange and messed with the crossfades to see if that would help, but i still get clicks...even when extending the crossfade a bit. the rendered file plays back fine. other warp modes play back fine. different buffer settings have no effect. i can upload/email the set if needed.

Hi Jakub_Rene_Kosik,

Complex Pro takes more CPU than Complex, that is to be expected. Now, we should find out if the glitches you experience are because of too high CPU load, or if there is a bug. Same for the long saving time: as you're working with an older set, it may be that the set got "wrong" somewhere with an older beta.

Would you mind trying to create a new set, with beta 20, and see at which point it gets bad? Then, if you have the possibility to upload the set somewhere, please do so and send a link to [email protected], with a reference to this thread.

@ scientist: there was also a problem with Follow Actions, not related to Complex Pro, that clips click on clip change. That may be what you experienced. Can you check in beta 20 as this bug should be fixed?

Regards,
Amaury

Amaury wrote: @ scientist: there was also a problem with Follow Actions, not related to Complex Pro, that clips click on clip change. That may be what you experienced. Can you check in beta 20 as this bug should be fixed?

Regards,
Amaury

checked in beta 20, and both issues (crossfade clicks and follow action clicks) remain. i've emailed the project to beta@...

thanks.

Amaury wrote:Hi Jakub_Rene_Kosik,

Complex Pro takes more CPU than Complex, that is to be expected. Now, we should find out if the glitches you experience are because of too high CPU load, or if there is a bug. Same for the long saving time: as you're working with an older set, it may be that the set got "wrong" somewhere with an older beta.

Would you mind trying to create a new set, with beta 20, and see at which point it gets bad? Then, if you have the possibility to upload the set somewhere, please do so and send a link to [email protected], with a reference to this thread.

Hello Amaury,

there's no problem with the system resources - CPU is used in max 30% in the new project i was just created to test the Complex Pro. The problem still occurs - this time exclusively when i multiply or divide the tempo of the original loop by 2.

I will send the e-mail with the link in a few secs.

Cheers,
Jakub.

Hi,

I moved the thread away as it's very old, and I'm not sure if you are still following. Please contact our support with relevant information/files, if the problem still occurs to you.

Regards,
Amaury