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Now the dust has settled, and you have had time to check out the Beta...
Will you be upgrading to Live 8?

Personally, I have mixed feelings about this new release.

Yup.

For APC40 and Max for Live...

...and Looper...

...and the new Operator...

...and all the little stuff.

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Defenetly Yes!
I like the new groove feature,vocoder and overdrive the most!

Yeah, in truth for all the workflow stuff.
Being able to select all tracks for lowing volume, zooming improvements, and being able to color the track name are huge to me.
All things Logic and other DAWs already do, these aren't groundbreaking features, but they are standards because they work well, period.

As it stands Logic isn't headed towards live performance friendliness, and Digital Performer glitch's harder than Live ever did when you add a new instrument while a song is playing, so Live it is.

APC40 will work with Live 7 no?

condra wrote:APC40 will work with Live 7 no?

Yeah - with some special update/add-on. From what I understand.

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o ya i'm on it and i do mean on it aaaa.

we are going to upgrade to suite this time.
i'm hooked on sampler and i can find plenty of use for operator.

the sound on sound looping is the golden child for me.
plus they fixed the issue i had with my mpd's (which was a mac os issue not abes or akai) that saves me from haveing to buy a midi interface for my foot controller and my drum kat.

the group tracks are also a very nice and need thing
lots of other new stuff that is really wicked too.

i just hope i have enough money to upgrade right away.

There are many improvements making it worthwhile and i've still not covered all the extras.

One massive improvement for me is the VST mapping update eg, using Arturia's modular moog with
all its functions was frustrating before but now is a doddle and i can map key functions that
previously went over the 128 limit.

there are several features that I have been using a hell of a lot, and you'd have to pry them out of my cold dead hands. EG: crossfades, groups, selection of ranges and copy/pasting at cursor in midi clips, the new Operator, the grooves, other stuff.
In fact there are other things that I am only just getting around to, such as the audio quantize (to fix my crummy bass playing)

Most of the stuff in L8 I have adopted so easily into my workflow that I forget that it wasn't in L7.

Rave wrote:

Machinesworking wrote:
Being able to select all tracks for lowing volume, .

ER what's this I missed?

if you multi-select tracks you can alter their volumes all at the same time, or their pans, etc etc.
I forget what it's called in the manual.

a lot of people wished for it

Section 14.2

When multiple tracks are selected, adjusting one of their mixer controls will adjust the same
control for the other tracks. If the tracks in the multi-selection have differing values for any particular knob or slider parameter (volume, for example), this difference will be maintained
as you adjust the parameter.

The dust settled?
Does that mean it's through beta

I'm really not sure how I ever managed without the groove templates and transient warping, let alone all the other workflow improvements.

I'm selfishly hoping that they release it before it's ready as I'm just getting made redundant and soon won't be able to afford to upgrade. Gonna stash some cash away for it tho, under the excuse of "software based anti-depressant" it's got to be better than seroxat

Absolutely will buy it whenever it is available. Foremost for the workflow improvements, secondly for the new suite library (and upgraded operator) and lastly because I love the vocoder (overdrive is good too). the new library kicks serious ass.

the workflow stuff seems small individually but added together makes a lot of difference in my personal workflow. essential stuff....i'm talking about the new piano roll w/ locator, quick transpose of midi notes, colors on channels/scenes, group tracks, multi paramter adjust, 3rd party vst use improvements, crossfades, and everything else i'm not thinking of at the moment.

things i basically don't need but might use = latin percussion, all the groove stuff (just not a part of how I write music, though maybe I should mess with it); also don't see myself using multiband compressor much, maybe I just haven't found it's best applications yet.....

Angstrom wrote:there are several features that I have been using a hell of a lot, and you'd have to pry them out of my cold dead hands.

Exactly. I won't go back!

I'm planning to upgrade once it is available, but I'm not sure about using it to play out - I'll probably wait for a couple of dot releases before I'll trust it enough for that. Maybe its just my imagination but there seems to be a lot more changes from 7 to 8 than there was from 6 to 7 which means lots more to go wrong.