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i have the remote sl and maschine.i dont see a need for it.i also use my iphone like a scaled down lemur.i think the apc40 would be redundant in my case.anyone else not really so hyped about it.i forgot..i also have a ecler evo5 which has midi stuff as well.

At the price I'm thinking a midibox with LC module and some changes to the firmware would be a better.

The price point is just a bit silly when they can be built for so **much** less with so much more flexibility.

-Ben

I've got no use for one currently. Still a neat toy though, we'll see what M4L brings to it.

MrYellow wrote:At the price I'm thinking a midibox with LC module and some changes to the firmware would be a better.

The price point is just a bit silly when they can be built for so **much** less with so much more flexibility.

-Ben

it depends on how you value your time, I suppose

"much" less than $400????????

It's way too big and costs too much for what it is, like all Akai products.

Other alternatives:

Mouse-free navigation in Live: Any midi controller and keystroke to MIDI translators like Bome and MIDIstroke along with midi yoke/IAC, generic usb keypad, or a Novation controller with Automap 3 Pro.

Session view clip matrix controller: Maschine

Tactile step sequencer: Maschine or iphone/ipod touch

Automatic mapping of selected device's macro controls: Any midi controller that has 8 knobs and Live's instant mapping, Maschine, or a Novation controller with Automap.

+1 for the "not me's"

simple clip triggering is nice for those who need it, I guess, but I don't need it and wouldn't encourage anyone buying anything from Numarkai during the first round.

longjohns wrote: it depends on how you value your time, I suppose

"much" less than $400????????

I'm fast

edit: btw it's AU$1000 (USD$730) here in Australia.

-Ben

It's $570 here (£399).
There's lots of things I'd rather spend that kind of money on.

Akai are really doing great PR for themselves with their "fair" pricing scheme.
Let's hope the dollar tanks even more, that'll teach them

for my kind of music i really don't need an apc-40 for some basic mixing/device/clip control.
i understand that a lot of other people might need it for remixing/dj'ing or whatever,but i feel that the Abes SHOULD add this stuff to the SOFTWARE first:

-RECORDABLE CLIP ENVELOPES.
-MOUSEFREE OPERATION

perfect that,and THEN build the mother of all hardware controllers.
that's the way i would do it.....

The thing that gets me with most of these controllers is that USB 3 is just around the corner, so it's out-dated within 6 months - 1 year of its release.

I'm going to wait it out until a few more incarnations have gone by and a few extra features have been added.

If it were also a sound card with a hard drive and some extra processing power that could boost the power of your computer then I would have bitten.

I'm sure it's great but it's not actually necessary for most people who already have some kind of controller.

Jarvisimon wrote:The thing that gets me with most of these controllers is that USB 3 is just around the corner, so it's out-dated within 6 months - 1 year of its release.

As the APC is just a controller, would it really benefit from the extended bandwidth of a USB 3 connection? Or has USB 3 other benefits over 2 that would make a USB 3 APC more reliable?

Gab wrote:

Jarvisimon wrote:The thing that gets me with most of these controllers is that USB 3 is just around the corner, so it's out-dated within 6 months - 1 year of its release.

As the APC is just a controller, would it really benefit from the extended bandwidth of a USB 3 connection? Or has USB 3 other benefits over 2 that would make a USB 3 APC more reliable?

I suppose in its present state, No, it wouldn't really benefit greately from USB 3.

Personally, I would really love something like this to further my laptop's capabilities. If they expanded its use to incorporate audio and extra plug-in power, then yes, USB 3 would be a necessity.

Perhaps something for Akai/Ableton to look at in the future. Alas, at present, this is wishful thinking.

I forgot to consider that it was more expensive outiside the US

can people from other countries purchase from US online retailers?

or have a friend purchase, and ship?

longjohns wrote:can people from other countries purchase from US online retailers?

or have a friend purchase, and ship overseas?

Of course they can, as long as they pay the export/import duties, which can make the thing a hell of a lot more expensive than it first appears.