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Hi folks,

We just released the second beta version of the upcoming 8.0.3 bugfix update.
Every Live 8 owner can use this beta version.

As it is a beta, please remember to backup critical data before you use it.


Version info:

Current version: Live 8.0.3b2
Expiration date: 2009/05/25
Required serial: Live 8 full version



Download info:

http://downloads.ableton.com/extra/5839 ... ent_en.dmg
http://downloads.ableton.com/extra/5839 ... ent_en.zip



Kind Regards
/Alex





Changes from Live 8.0.3b1 to 8.0.3b2:



Improvements:

On Mac OS X, again, slightly improvement graphic performance.



Bugfixes:

Transport controls of certain controller surfaces would not work properly [5505]

Playing back a particular audio clip in Beats warp mode would lead to disk overloads on loop back jump [5501]

Under certain conditions, Collect and Save would copies no longer used audio files of frozen tracks [5114]

Slice to MIDI track on audio clip might crash Live [5390]

The voice stealing mechanism of the Impulse would not always work properly [573]

In the Vocoder, several parameter would appear with different names in the automation chooser compared to the names from the info text [5060]

In the Multiband Dynamics, several parameter would appear with different names in the automation chooser compared to the names from the info text [5060]

Creating a MIDI track via double click on an instrument preset in the Browser would not work when a Return or the master track is selected [3399]

The Session view scrolling with the APC40 would not always work properly

Third party plug-in offering more inputs that outputs could crash Live

Pasting a Live set from the browser into the current Live set would select and scroll to a slot in the last scene [5493]

Not quantized arranger scrubbing would not work properly [5491]

Slicing audio file using a slicing preset containing two levels of nested racks with cascading macro mappings would crash Live [5458]

Dragging a clip from a Live set in the browser to the empty arranger area would not work sometimes or even crash Live [5508]




Announcement of Live 8.0.3b1:
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=115030

"The voice stealing mechanism of the Impulse would not always work properly"

The hell is Voice Stealing? This a new feature for Impulse?

Assume you have a polyphonic synth with 10 voices.
If you play 10 ten notes at the same time, one note is handled by one voice.

If you additional play another note, you have 11 notes but only 10 voices.
Then, voice stealing take care of which voice and in which way should handle the new (11th) note.

The easiest way of voice stealing is to sop "old" notes and play the new one, for for example when using a monophonic synth.

Regards
/Alex

Alex wrote:If you play 10 ten notes at the same time, one note is handled by one voice.

If you additional play another note, you have 11 notes but only 10 voices.

10 fingers = 10 notes. So which part of your body are you using to play the 11th note?

8O wrote:

Alex wrote:If you play 10 ten notes at the same time, one note is handled by one voice.

If you additional play another note, you have 11 notes but only 10 voices.

10 fingers = 10 notes. So which part of your body are you using to play the 11th note?

Some notes of a particular instrument can have longer release time or they can be sustained with the sustain pedal so they will sound longer (pads, for example), while you can still play new notes. Playing multiple notes at the same time is called polyphony and the more notes you play using a plug-in instrument (a VSTI or AU etc.), the more processing power it will require from the CPU in order to be in time to fill in data in the audio buffer. Some instruments have limitations on a maximum number of notes playing at the same time (often called "maximum polyphony" or "maximum number of voices"), so the question becomes actual when the maximum polyphony is reached and still you play a new note which simply would not make any sound (skipped note) if there was no algorithm to deal with the above-mentioned limitation. So there are some ways to handle such situations. For example, an old note (played earliest) can be sacrificed to make space for a new note. This is what Alex was probably talking about.

Andrejs

^ hehe, yeah, I know, I was just being puerile...

8O wrote:10 fingers = 10 notes. So which part of your body are you using to play the 11th note?

A note is considered "played" until the end of its decay. So if you have a patch with a sufficiently long decay, you can play a scale with one finger and still use more than 10 voices.

hello .. When I select the video window or fullscreen the videoclip, my computer's keyboard doesn't control Live8.. it's same with all versions of Live 8 (even I just test 8.0.3b2)..
I think it's not my computer's problem, because it's still working with Live 7..
thanx
mac os 10.5.7 macbookpro 2.33

Please investigate the warp default mode when recording straight audio tracks.
Seems disabling warp mode globally doesn't really disable it when recording audio. All audio tracks in the project continue to default to warp.

Also I'm still hitting the memory ceiling on my new quad-core PC on larger projects that are using MINIMAL native plugs (and no 3rd party VST's). Mainly recording audio tracks now - nothing special. Resources show 1.7+gig memory utilized.

Project is almost 200 channels with 16 submix audio tracks and the remainder MIDI and dedicated automation channels for future purposes. We're using scenes as songs rather than per project for each song. Approximately 35 scenes. And again, using mostly native plugs and synths, and one instance of sfz for general MIDI cells.

Thanks!

Greg

Crash on quit when using Minimonsta or Fabfilter Twin 1
Sometimes it also crash randomly..the Wheel of death appear suddenly and boom.....
Crash log sent to support/beta

these crashes also occurs on 8.01 and 8.02 but not in 7.016.

commuter wrote:Crash on quit when using Minimonsta or Fabfilter Twin 1
Sometimes it also crash randomly..the Wheel of death appear suddenly and boom.....
Crash log sent to support/beta

these crashes also occurs on 8.01 and 8.02 but not in 7.016.

?rashes here as well on exit (Mac OS X 10.5.7). The only external plug-in I am using is Cytomic Glue. I have already sent bug report to support@ableton.com

Andrejs

waves v6 plugins crash live if you try add them but it didnt happen in 7.0.15

Please fix the massive CPU issues on OS X...

locojohn wrote:?rashes here as well on exit (Mac OS X 10.5.7). The only external plug-in I am using is Cytomic Glue. I have already sent bug report to support@ableton.com
Andrejs

The Ableton support helped me to solve this issue. They told me to delete "Preferences.cfg" file and from then on everything is rock solid so far.

Andrejs

And what about the fucking pitch-shifting instead of the Abletonish warping in Looper when tempo change!!
It's a crime for the warp fathers.