Export Slices

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Machinate
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Export Slices

Post by Machinate » Tue May 19, 2009 11:02 pm

Scenario:

you're recording sounds around the house, drums from your sampler, whatever, and want to build a little library of those sounds; a common sound design task.

You proceed to record your entire session into Live. 30 minutes of recording may yield a thousand or so samples. (not all good, but some definitely are)

Now what do you do to get all your individual sounds? You're stoked that live has Slice To Midi with transient detection...

... only that won't let you export individual slices.

... and that's the feature request!
- Use the slicing and transient detection of Live to generate either:
a) Individual clips
or:
b) Individual cropped samples of one longer sample, in preparation for export.

- I can currently slice up to 128 slices out of a beat or whatever, but I can't put those slices anywhere of my choosing.
Please let us "Export Slices" directly from a right-click or whatever in any sample. That would rule so hard.

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Re: Export Slices

Post by hoffman2k » Tue May 19, 2009 11:03 pm

+ 1 for destructive slicing!

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Mr-Bit » Thu May 21, 2009 9:04 am

Yes please I'm in the process of creating over 1200 drum samples and its killing me.

Also to apply processing to these I'm freezing then flattening which then gives me a file suffixed with (freeze) :|
renaming 1200 samples and clips is mind numbing.Being able to flatten without freezing would be nice retaining original file names.

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Debrecini » Fri May 22, 2009 5:26 pm

You've Definitely got my vote. :wink:

Further to this I would like to add a related feature request. In drum racks we all like to create our own custom kits. These hand picked samples are scattered in various locations of our drives. For the sake of organization & backup purposes I like to create separate folders for each drum kit I create. I have a folder in my sample collection called "My Kits". Within is a folder for each kit containing all samples for them.

So the feature request is can we have an "Export Kit" or "Save Kit" option for Drum Racks?

Benefits are clear.
  • * For backup we always know where the samples used are located. Never will Ableton lose associated files if in the future we decide to re-organize our sample collection

    * Another massive benefit would be portability it would be easy to save your kit. Take it to a friends house with a different computer, load it up and away you go!

    * Collaborating with other artists would be a joy, you could share kits very quickly and easily.

Personally I would love to get into the business of creating sample CD's so the above 2 features would be a god send.

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Re: Export Slices

Post by longjohns » Sun May 24, 2009 10:07 pm

just drag the .adg into a project folder

manage it, collect and save

that should do it

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Machinate » Sun May 24, 2009 10:19 pm

The issue here is that you can't get *individual samples* that can be used elsewhere.
I really doubt that - when "slicing to midi" all you get is the one sample with different start points - works fine inside Live, but it does nothing outside Live.
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Re: Export Slices

Post by longjohns » Mon May 25, 2009 2:27 am

if that was directed at my post, i had only meant to address Debrecini's post about packing sounds along with a drum rack preset

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Machinate » Mon May 25, 2009 1:22 pm

gotcha. ... it's still a "dirty" way of doing it though, since you're stuck with long indexed samples... imo.
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Re: Export Slices

Post by longjohns » Mon May 25, 2009 4:51 pm

agreed.

my point is that that functionality is 100% (edit: well, OK 90% - it would be easier as a command or etc, rather than via file manager)

the missing functionality is the original request.

once there is an easy way to create truncated samples, the mechanism for containing them with a preset file already exists.

carry on...

:wink:

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Debrecini » Wed May 27, 2009 11:44 am

For my point yeah I suppose there is the sample manager for collecting samples into the project folder.

But like Machinate says you end up with a bunch of samples with start and end times manipulated. Therefore the samples are useless for anything else but Ableton. I should have mentioned this the first time but when you save the kit it should destructively crop the samples. So anything outside the start and end times is deleted and you end up with only what you used.

You should still have the normal way of doing it which does not destructively edit the samples. But my idea would be a very handy tool that saves time for saving kits. As you'd then have the option to save the samples with destructive edits.

I still also agree with Machinate's original post to be able to export each individual slice. Again by cropping / deleting everything outside the slices start and end times.

Both these ideas are very closely related and it would be amazing to see them realized.

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Michael Hatsis » Sun May 31, 2009 6:39 am

Sup Sup!?!?

Here's how I do it.
- Slice to single sampler
- Open up the Zone tab and select all Zones
- Right Click -> Crop Sample
- all Slices are chopped and put in your Project/Samples/Crop Folder
- Batch Rename

A few steps involved but works fine...
Is that what your talkin about?

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Machinate » Sun May 31, 2009 7:29 am

aight, aight! That's the Sampler folk sorted out :-) Cheers bro.

- still not as slick as it could be with a dedicated "Feature", but it'll get me through this project, for sure!
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Re: Export Slices

Post by Rogue Scrunt » Sun May 31, 2009 2:47 pm

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Michael Hatsis » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:55 pm

Machinate wrote:aight, aight! That's the Sampler folk sorted out :-) Cheers bro.

- still not as slick as it could be with a dedicated "Feature", but it'll get me through this project, for sure!
No prob. Yeah, dedicated feature would be nice. I kind of like this way though, I can fine tune the start and end points then bam! Guess I could do that before hand too...

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Re: Export Slices

Post by Machinate » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:42 pm

okay, am I the only one who has this problem though;

make the Sampler crop all your samples, and lo and behold, they all have remnants of the next sound in them... shit. I'lll need to reduce the length of all of these samples... shite.
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