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Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:30 am
by Benshik
Am i the only one to find totally useless the fact that double clicking on the stop button brings you back to the beginning???
Can we have the option to desactivate this???

For me right now this is very annoying coz in a recording/editing session im navigating live through a mackie control emulation on the lemur, and quite often i unintentionaly double press the damn stop button and lose track of where i am on the timeline :roll: :roll:

Re: Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:28 am
by Debrecini
Thats wierd it already does that for me. At least it does for arrangement view which is all you should need it for right? I'm using 8.02

Re: Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:32 am
by longjohns
try making a locator and 'set start time here'

you can drag the locator around as you work on different sections

Re: Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:22 pm
by Benshik
longjohns wrote:try making a locator and 'set start time here'

you can drag the locator around as you work on different sections
thanx man, thats a smart workaround but makes it difficult to quickly navigate and record into various parts of a song...
stop bringing you exactly where you were would still be more logical to me...

Re: Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 1:43 pm
by ozone7
Would a "play again" function be useful here?

Re: Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:50 am
by longjohns
the thing I worry about here is that there are a lot of different actions which are needed

-play from a designated "start point" repeatedly, despite clicking elsewhere/moving the insert marker
-play from song start
-play from different selected points more rapidly (aka clicking in various locations, & playing.. aka current behavior if you use single mouse clicks + play)
-resume playback based on stop position (currently shift+space??)

and besides initiating the different playback scenarios, in some cases it requires addressing how to set the points or determine what the user wants and the easiest way to achieve it

- how do you differentiate between mouse clicks where you want to select something, but not change the playback position, vs. wanting to select something and change playback to that position, etc.

it just starts seeming like a lot of different modifier keys, or even multiple transport buttons. that might not necessarily be bad, but might be confusing.

it might work to have 3 play buttons,
-start of arrangement
-play from 'start position' aka a section you are working on despite position of the insert marker
-play from insert marker
(shift + any of those = resume)??

Actually two would probably suffice (start position vs insert marker) and a double stop would bring you back to 1.1.1

it's just simpler and the only complainers would be the "accidentally hit stop twice" people - guess that's the OP hehe

Re: Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 1:58 am
by Angstrom
longjohns wrote:the thing I worry about here is that there are a lot of different actions which are needed

-play from a designated "start point" repeatedly, despite clicking elsewhere/moving the insert marker
of course that one is in there already, via right click on the loop brace and select "always start from here" or whatever it's called (I just closed Live and I can't remember 5 seconds ago)

a very useful ultra-hidden function

Re: Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:14 am
by longjohns
yes..

I'm sure there are also several other situations I did not identify.

it just seems confusing to me and currently you can pretty much do whatever you want - not sure to what extent "oops I pressed the wrong button" qualifies as a valid excuse either :wink:

Re: Stop button NOT bringing you back to the very beginning

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 3:52 pm
by Debrecini
If you want to jump around to different parts to record why not simply set a bunch of locators and map them to numeric keys 1 through 9. You can jump around the arrangement as much as you wish then.