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DJ EQing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:48 pm
by wackraps
OK, I know this question has been asked before, but I've been checking the forums for days and have not found quite what I am looking for. Maybe it simply doesn't exist. Anyways, I recently purchased an APC 40 and am using it to DJ, though this same question could apply to other MIDI controllers as well. Basically I need an EQ plugin/device that functions like a normal DJ mixer's EQ. Meaning:

1. the 12 o'clock position is 0 db.
2. the boost (by turning the knob to the right) boosts by approx 6db at full blast
3. turning to the left cuts to -infinity dB

I know that the LSS DJeq has been mentioned by many but it seems to me that the Low frequency range allows too much Mid through when Mid and High are completely killed. I have tried messing around with racks and the like. The best I've come across so far is Tarekith's EQ 3.8 v2 but as mentioned in the documentation there is no way to limit the boost to 6db. The only way that comes to mind is using a Limiter in the chain, but I am on Ableton 7 which does not have this. Any thoughts? Anyone using a similar set up with the Limiter in Ableton 8? Thanks in advance.

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:41 pm
by saint easy
more over, it would be nice to see a controller come out that has the clip launch matrix the APC has but that also allows you to control a 3 band eq on two channels at once--Killing the lows on one channel while bringing them up on another etc.

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:44 pm
by the_antagonist
yeh 0 at 12 o'clock would be good.

i asked a similar question a while back with no success. however you worded in better. i have learned to live with out.

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:45 pm
by CHARLIE!
Yeah I am looking for something similar as well.

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:05 pm
by David
Where there is a will there is way...

A while back I spent many cold dark lonely red wine soaked (and the occasional whisky) nights working out how to do that very thing... 0db at 12 O'clock, -48db (or whatever) at 8 O'clock and +6dB at 5 O'clock..

Was quite fun actually when I cracked it... a slightly corroded liver, and a rather bewildered outlook on life was the cost, but still I think the +'ves far out weighed the -'ves...

Yes, the good old knob rotation trick....

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:36 pm
by wackraps
David wrote:Where there is a will there is way...

A while back I spent many cold dark lonely red wine soaked (and the occasional whisky) nights working out how to do that very thing... 0db at 12 O'clock, -48db (or whatever) at 8 O'clock and +6dB at 5 O'clock..

Was quite fun actually when I cracked it... a slightly corroded liver, and a rather bewildered outlook on life was the cost, but still I think the +'ves far out weighed the -'ves...

Yes, the good old knob rotation trick....
So are you saying you have a solution? or you just drank til you didn't care?

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:56 pm
by Tarekith

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:35 am
by David
wackraps wrote:
David wrote:Where there is a will there is way...

A while back I spent many cold dark lonely red wine soaked (and the occasional whisky) nights working out how to do that very thing... 0db at 12 O'clock, -48db (or whatever) at 8 O'clock and +6dB at 5 O'clock..

Was quite fun actually when I cracked it... a slightly corroded liver, and a rather bewildered outlook on life was the cost, but still I think the +'ves far out weighed the -'ves...

Yes, the good old knob rotation trick....
So are you saying you have a solution? or you just drank til you didn't care?
Yes I found a solution. I'd drank a wee bit too, but I always cared ;]

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:21 am
by Minimal Justice System
The ony solution is to run through a mixer, having used live for mixing for some time I have yet to find anything that performs as wel as the EQ's you find on a mixer... I'm sure there woud be a way to recreate these EQ's in live but I have neither the skill nor the patience to do it (I have tried... and failed) so I would suggest splitting the sound coming out of live and into a mixer, this does limit you to 4 channels (or less if you have a smaller mixer) but for mixing I find I don't need more than the 4 (2 for tracks and 2 for clips/loops).

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:47 pm
by wackraps
David wrote:
wackraps wrote:
David wrote:Where there is a will there is way...

A while back I spent many cold dark lonely red wine soaked (and the occasional whisky) nights working out how to do that very thing... 0db at 12 O'clock, -48db (or whatever) at 8 O'clock and +6dB at 5 O'clock..

Was quite fun actually when I cracked it... a slightly corroded liver, and a rather bewildered outlook on life was the cost, but still I think the +'ves far out weighed the -'ves...

Yes, the good old knob rotation trick....
So are you saying you have a solution? or you just drank til you didn't care?
Yes I found a solution. I'd drank a wee bit too, but I always cared ;]
And that solution is...?

Re: DJ EQing

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:48 pm
by Tone Deft