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anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:43 pm
by Hayz
Hi there, I need to layer my bass line and kick with a sub, can anyone recommend any sub patches/plug ins/techniques for ableton please that would give my bass more energy?

Best wishes
Hayz ;)

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:43 pm
by danabus
I like dsk bluez, or maybe you could just use the resonator?

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:46 pm
by honeo
try it with operator it's a mighty tool :D, even for drums

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:56 pm
by oddstep
In Live 8 I'm getting a bit too fond of using the Hip hop sub instrument rack to add subbage to everything that might benefit from it.
There's loads on alsmost every musictech forum ever about adding subbass, check it out...
Generally- doubling kicks and basslines with a single oscillator sine wave synth pitched/transposed as low as possible is a good place to start. Another classic is to have a constant 40hz sine that is behind a gate sidechained to a kick or a bass or what ever you want to 'sub up'.
The next step is to wonder what sort of monitors you'll need to get... and be surprised by the massive range of responses PAs will have to the subbass you can just about hear through your project studio headphones. That's my experience anyway. Almost as difficult as getting compression/limiting right.....

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:01 pm
by etceterax
Mda has an open source (free) sub bass in both vst and au. Nothing too fancy, but it gets the job done.

http://mda.smartelectronix.com/

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:23 am
by spiral
filter delay in abelton can add sub to your signal

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:50 pm
by Tagor

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:18 pm
by myxomat0515
+1 for Operator.

Its very easy to create a sub bass tone that will sit nicely in your mix, especially if you're only using it to supplement an existing track. You should be able to dig up some tutorials on this topic.

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:58 pm
by ionic
in operator just throw some sine waves in your oscs. one with a corse of 1 and another with one of .5 to get those super low waves that you feel not hear...

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:36 pm
by jimyson
Have you tried LP a sample from a bass guitar

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:44 am
by zalo
look up sin wave on google, download the file, then just throw it in simpler, trim it, tune it up high, then just double everything in the 0 octave(or -1 or -2 but you need special subs for that (c-2 is almost 4 Hz!!!!!!) http://www.eminent-tech.com/main.html) , if that doesnt shake the room, the rooms too big or your subs are too weak, haha

Re: anyone recommend sub bass for ableton?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:33 pm
by geo