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is it true that the majority of the south doesn't believe Obama is an american?

starving student wrote:is it true that the majority of the south doesn't believe Obama is an american?

I seriously doubt it.

But I seriously doubt any gross generalizations, whether they be based on racial classification, religious persuasion, sexual orientation, or geographic origin (to name only a few bases).

like

ALL TEXANS ARE REPUBLICANS


i bet that common generalization has shaped your outlook quite a bit.

just as people think that since i live in New Hampshire i go hunting....
tangent...

we have the best state motto "LIVE FREE OR DIE, MOTHERFUCKER*"



*motherfucker is optional.

I know alot of people in texas who are not republicans

but is there any truth in this?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archiv ... 019306.php

I'm not familiar with these people are they liberals spreading liberal lies? or is their math correct?

starving student wrote:I know alot of people in texas who are not republicans

but is there any truth in this?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archiv ... 019306.php

I'm not familiar with these people are they liberals spreading liberal lies? or is their math correct?

well there sure is a lot of people who dont think he is american...

mostly because when you pose the question "Do you think he is american?" you can be raising doubt to be followed by an uninformed response out of suspicion.

like "Do you think Bill Clinton is a rapist?" the question itself will raise suspicion from people with unfavorable opinions of him. and the results of that poll would be quite frighteningly high in the "yes" column

starving student wrote:I know alot of people in texas who are not republicans

but is there any truth in this?

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archiv ... 019306.php

I'm not familiar with these people are they liberals spreading liberal lies? or is their math correct?

Your first question was "is it true that the majority of the south doesn't believe Obama is an american?"

The poll you cited doesn't show that a majority of people in the south who were polled think he isn't an American.

So the article's assertion that the silly notion that he's not American is "practically mainstream" in the south isn't even borne out by their own statistics.

It's definitely a higher number than anywhere else, but clearly not a majority.

And to whether there is any bias in this article: "For a crazy, demonstrably false, racist idea, these are discouraging numbers."

Crazy? Perhaps.

Demonstrably false? Absolutely.

Discouraging numbers? Hopefully.

Racist idea? YES!... erm, wait, where did race come into the picture? I thought they were talking about his citizenship?

Yes, I'd say there's a bias in that article.

well this columnist I am familiar with and she's no liberal notice how I say that as if 'Liberal' is a bad
word haha she says it was a liberal poll but it's the other things she says that are just as interesting

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/edi ... 60883.html

and what's with all of those members of congress that keep saying they don't know if obamas an american alot of them even recorded on camera, these are elected politicians with an education you'd think they know better.

starving student wrote: these are elected politicians with an education you'd think they know better.

know better.....they don't even read the bills they pass!

it's little more than a room full of kids looking to see if their friends are raising their hands before they do.

hurlingdervish wrote:

starving student wrote: these are elected politicians with an education you'd think they know better.

know better.....they don't even read the bills they pass!

it's little more than a room full of kids looking to see if their friends are raising their hands before they do.

What they "know" is how to stay in office.

hurlingdervish wrote:

starving student wrote: these are elected politicians with an education you'd think they know better.

know better.....they don't even read the bills they pass!

it's little more than a room full of kids looking to see if their friends are raising their hands before they do.

if only the world was so simple.

hurlingdervish wrote:im sorry if your argument suggest hints of racism...but it does. and you put it out there to be interpreted....so don't get mad when someone inteprets it to be racist when it already was walking a fine line.


starvingstudent...you are a racist.


think he'll care? nope. cause hes not.

and to answer your last line calling me a bigot...i was reacting to your opinion and when i gave my own about it, you blew up.

i can handle that people are racist, apparently you can't handle other peoples opinions about your arguments you put out to be read and interpreted.

and still...you have yet to deny you are a racist. it could have ended with a "no I'm not, heres why..."
but instead you are trying to demonize me...so go ahead.

You are so full of shit. ANYTIME that someone doesn't agree with your "anything goes" political stance, they're a racist or some type of irrational and intolerant devil. You represent the epitome of what is wrong with the United States. It's all about ME and a COMPLETE lack of truly objective and discerning intelligence. People like yourself are happy as long as they can hide behind pseudo self serving ideals in a country that for those like yourself, is nothing more than a sugar lick.

And you have the nerve to state something about the nature of intolerance and the handling of other peoples opinions. You Sir, are a JOKE.

DrXparaMental wrote:

hurlingdervish wrote:im sorry if your argument suggest hints of racism...but it does. and you put it out there to be interpreted....so don't get mad when someone inteprets it to be racist when it already was walking a fine line.


starvingstudent...you are a racist.


think he'll care? nope. cause hes not.

and to answer your last line calling me a bigot...i was reacting to your opinion and when i gave my own about it, you blew up.

i can handle that people are racist, apparently you can't handle other peoples opinions about your arguments you put out to be read and interpreted.

and still...you have yet to deny you are a racist. it could have ended with a "no I'm not, heres why..."
but instead you are trying to demonize me...so go ahead.

You are so full of shit. ANYTIME that someone doesn't agree with your "anything goes" political stance, they're a racist or some type of irrational and intolerant devil. You represent the epitome of what is wrong with the United States. It's all about ME and a COMPLETE lack of truly objective and discerning intelligence. People like yourself are happy as long as they can hide behind pseudo self serving ideals in a country that for those like yourself, is nothing more than a sugar lick.

And you have the nerve to state something about the nature of intolerance and the handling of other peoples opinions. You Sir, are a JOKE.

way to pick a fight troll.

i said his argument appears racist. that doesn't mean it is, it means , my perception of it was racist. but now that i know hes not racist its not an issue

Doc you can have pancakes, waffles, or french toast.. maple syrup or Mrs.buttersworth
but there will be no fighting at the table dammit, and you better have your homework done
before John Gordon gets home that's right we're having breakfast for dinner so turn
that frown upside down mister or else

hurlingdervish wrote:

DrXparaMental wrote:

hurlingdervish wrote:im sorry if your argument suggest hints of racism...but it does. and you put it out there to be interpreted....so don't get mad when someone inteprets it to be racist when it already was walking a fine line.


starvingstudent...you are a racist.


think he'll care? nope. cause hes not.

and to answer your last line calling me a bigot...i was reacting to your opinion and when i gave my own about it, you blew up.

i can handle that people are racist, apparently you can't handle other peoples opinions about your arguments you put out to be read and interpreted.

and still...you have yet to deny you are a racist. it could have ended with a "no I'm not, heres why..."
but instead you are trying to demonize me...so go ahead.

You are so full of shit. ANYTIME that someone doesn't agree with your "anything goes" political stance, they're a racist or some type of irrational and intolerant devil. You represent the epitome of what is wrong with the United States. It's all about ME and a COMPLETE lack of truly objective and discerning intelligence. People like yourself are happy as long as they can hide behind pseudo self serving ideals in a country that for those like yourself, is nothing more than a sugar lick.

And you have the nerve to state something about the nature of intolerance and the handling of other peoples opinions. You Sir, are a JOKE.

way to pick a fight troll.

i said his argument appears racist. that doesn't mean it is, it means , my perception of it was racist. but now that i know hes not racist its not an issue

Oh, and you're not a troll by insinuating racism and intolerance at every turn? Again, You're a JOKE. It's YOU, that provides ZERO rationale. You demand what you never supply. More sugar mentality.

I'm not picking a fight here, I am just making it abundantly clear that I am SICK of people like you playing the race card at every turn like it were there own personal subjective
"wild" or "get out of jail" free card. There is simply no real logic within this type of predictable ultra impulsive response.

I HATE socialism. Socialism is just a convoluted "people's" duped perspective of what being an aristocrat's bitch is really all about.

it was a discussion between me and stringtapper that ended and we moved on and you are bringing it up again for no reason other than you are angry...go make some music