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Hey Folks,

I'm wondering if you can adjust the pan of one send track being sent to another. For example, I want to do a 3 point spread on a mono guitar track. The clean guitar is on the main audio channel and is panned center. Than I send it to a delay that's panned hard left (for the example's sake) and it's output is sent through a reverb send that's also panned hard left (so the instrument is properly placed in the 'room'.). The Reverb has it's stereo value set to 0 making it a mono reverb. I have the reverb's pan also set hard left so if you look at the meters you'll see that both the delay and the reverb only have signal coming through the left channel. Since the reverb is mono I would expect to be able to leave the reverb's pan in the center and have the meter lights respond to the pan of the delay being sent to it. So, if the delay's pan moves hard left, only the left channel of the reverb is lit up and if I move the delay's pan hard right, than only the right side responds. This isn't the case - I actually have to pan the reverb send as well.

Now, I want to move the delayed guitar to 50% pan left and I want the reverb to follow it. I know I can adjust the pan on the delay's send to move the delay effect in the pan space. The problem is, I have to move the reverb pan as well which effectively means I can only use this reverb send for the one guitar delay track because if I use it for other instruments, the reverb for ALL of them will be moving pan placement when I only want it to move for the delay. I've tried to come up with a way to do this, including using racks, and the width setting in the utility effect, but I haven't had any luck. Any ideas? The end result I'm looking for is that I can leave the reverb's pan at center so it's only the pan of the delay that's effecting where the reverb is panned as well. If in the end what I'm trying to do doesn't make sense or I haven't explained it well, I'm open to that outcome as well

Thanks in advance!

Use chain
keep one chain clean, without any FX
on the other chain put a delay and reverb and tail it all with a utility effect
play with the panning on the utility

So here's a related question. I have a mono track that I'm sending to a stereo reverb as described by Robert Henke:

"To build a true stereo reverb with two independent inputs use a rack with two chains of the reverb, place a utility before each reverb and set one to "left" input and the other one to "right". Place a second utility after the reverb and pan one to the left and the other to the right. Finally add an EQ 8 sfter the reverb, set it to MS mode and EQ the mid and side bands differently and you'll get a complete new reverb experience."

If I set the send to pre, turn down the original track so all I hear is the reverb, the reverb is panned in the center. Changing the pan on the send will move the reverb left or right. Is there a way to leave the send's pan in the center, but have the reverb move left or right based on the pan of the mono track being sent to it?

Your question actually made my brain reboot.