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Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:28 am
by memyselfandus
I am wondering if someone from Ableton can answer this..
Are there plans to add 64 bit OS to the next version of Live?
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:37 am
by hurlingdervish
9 is at least two if not four years off
8 is barely finished and they will be rolling out upgrades for a while
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:06 am
by timothyallan
It's not 2-4 years off... Look at the release schedule for the past 5 versions.
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:22 am
by hurlingdervish
timothyallan wrote:It's not 2-4 years off... Look at the release schedule for the past 5 versions.
look at how buggy 8 was at first
and with M4L coming i think they will be milking all they can out of this release
i dunno why anyone buys 64 bit systems when they always have compatibility issues with music gear
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:11 am
by aisling
timothyallan wrote:It's not 2-4 years off... Look at the release schedule for the past 5 versions.
While your probably right, I kind of wish they could find the balance of earning revenue, and slowing down on the new releases. It gets quite fatiguing trying to keep up with upgrade mania every 18-21 months.....
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:21 am
by hurlingdervish
aisling wrote:timothyallan wrote:It's not 2-4 years off... Look at the release schedule for the past 5 versions.
While your probably right, I kind of wish they could find the balance of earning revenue, and slowing down on the new releases. It gets quite fatiguing trying to keep up with upgrade mania every 18-21 months.....
APC 40, M4L, and Share are going to be pumping out revenue for a while
as well as just individual things like tension, analog etc
i think they are wise enough to take their time on 8, and roll out more updates instead. plus they have that serato merge coming which is even more money.... I doubt well see 9 as quick as we saw 5-6-7
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:25 am
by aisling
hurlingdervish wrote:aisling wrote:timothyallan wrote:It's not 2-4 years off... Look at the release schedule for the past 5 versions.
While your probably right, I kind of wish they could find the balance of earning revenue, and slowing down on the new releases. It gets quite fatiguing trying to keep up with upgrade mania every 18-21 months.....
APC 40, M4L, and Share are going to be pumping out revenue for a while
as well as just individual things like tension, analog etc
i think they are wise enough to take their time on 8, and roll out more updates instead. plus they have that serato merge coming which is even more money.... I doubt well see 9 as quick as we saw 5-6-7
your raise a good point. I hope your right.
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:22 am
by Pasha
I think that jumping on 64bit now is not a good idea.
Think Apple. They will soon release Snow Leopard and it will boot
at 64bit only on a Xserve or Mac Pro. Lack of drivers.
I do not want to be hit by these so let's learn to use what we have...
compared to 20 years ago when I got a shitty tape 4 Track recorder...
- Best
- Pasha
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:25 am
by Tone Deft
hurlingdervish wrote:aisling wrote:timothyallan wrote:It's not 2-4 years off... Look at the release schedule for the past 5 versions.
While your probably right, I kind of wish they could find the balance of earning revenue, and slowing down on the new releases. It gets quite fatiguing trying to keep up with upgrade mania every 18-21 months.....
APC 40, M4L, and Share are going to be pumping out revenue for a while
as well as just individual things like tension, analog etc
i think they are wise enough to take their time on 8, and roll out more updates instead. plus they have that serato merge coming which is even more money.... I doubt well see 9 as quick as we saw 5-6-7
totally disagree.
Re: Ableton. any plans on making Live 9 64 Bit?
Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:03 am
by locojohn
Pasha wrote:I think that jumping on 64bit now is not a good idea.
Think Apple. They will soon release Snow Leopard and it will boot
at 64bit only on a Xserve or Mac Pro. Lack of drivers.
I do not want to be hit by these so let's learn to use what we have...
compared to 20 years ago when I got a shitty tape 4 Track recorder...
- Best
- Pasha
Pasha, you don't need to boot kernel in 64-bit mode in order to run 64-bit applications in Snow Leopard. More to say, if you are on a portable Mac Book or Mac Book Pro you are not going to have any performance boost if you're booting in 64-bit kernel mode due to hardware limitations of memory you can put in the current portables. You will be able to run 64-bit apps perfectly fine while the kexts still run in compatible 32-bit mode. A 32-bit Mac OS X kernel only means that it itself runs in 32-bit, that its own address space spans a 64-bit addressing space. So by definition that's nothing to do with being able to run 64-bit apps or not. This is actually different to what's happening with the Microsoft Windows OS family, which tied their object and ABI format to the kernel addressing space so that one requires the other to be in the same addressing space.
Andrejs