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Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:47 am
by anirog
As a dj I often use the complex warp mode in Live 7, but when I use complex warp mode on any clip Live crashes.

I read on another post that complex warp in Live 7 is incompatible with snow leopard :(

Is pitch warp as good as complex warp for DJ'ing?

Thanks

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:37 pm
by ethios4
You will get actually get better sound quality with Re-Pitch, but the pitch changes. No artifacts though.

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:39 pm
by sesshin
no, complex (and complex pro on 8 ) degrade signal quality. Repitch has the best sound quality of all the warping options. Personally I use that for the majority of things, unless it causes keys to clash, then I might use complex or any of the other modes depending on what the song sounds like

if you are using complex you might want to check out josh von's method of restoring sound quality
http://www.abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6262

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:59 pm
by anirog
Thanks

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:30 am
by xzusa8ky
Go for Re-Pitch!

Little tip!

"Dont forget to set the sequenzer tempo to the actually tempo of the file first!" then you will have a real turntable feeling...;)

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:28 am
by Hermanus
+1 to repitch

it has changed my life on Live since I decided to give it a go as default mode :wink:

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:50 am
by timothyallan
Repitch if you want to keep transients!

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:01 pm
by Earwax69
What is "josh von's method of restoring sound quality" in few words??

(I need to register for access the linked thread, pfffff, exhausting...)

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:10 pm
by timothyallan
From what I remember it included a Vintage Warmer and exciter, BBE I think, on you master bus. It's a bandaid solution to a problem that can be avoided.

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:42 pm
by Leon Tricker
Which mode sounds better to your ears?

Go with that one.

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:16 am
by cenik11
I use Re-Pitch to warp nearly all my tunes. I have a couple of tunes that I've warped with Complex simply b/c Re-Pitch makes the vocals contained therein sound too far off from the original sounds.

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:25 am
by Tarekith
Complex Pro here for 99.9% for all my tracks.

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:07 am
by anachroschism
Tarekith wrote:Complex Pro here for 99.9% for all my tracks.
Same.

dont know exactly how they all differ but repitch wont work with alot of what I do because its not steady I.E. live musicians arent 100% and i cant have random pitch fluctuations. Yrs ago as a DJ i fell in love with the numark TTX because you could change tempo without the pitch, first real appearance of that ability, no way im going back to the chipmunk days.

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:41 pm
by The Carpet Cleaner
Hermanus wrote:+1 to repitch

it has changed my life on Live since I decided to give it a go as default mode :wink:
Hi,
can you develop in what it has changed your life on Live?
Thanks, I'll give it a try too.

So far I've used complex pro for songs. I can note sometimes some sound modifications but I guess it's a normal result if I don't play the track at its original tempo.

Re: Is complex warp mode as good as pitch mode for DJ's

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:51 pm
by Tone Deft
complex pro changes the sound even at the original tempo. if you're not changing tempo you don't want to use it.