Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

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prebentious
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Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by prebentious » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:10 am

Here's my first contribution to the community. It's a device that converts MIDI cc data (which can be saved as automation in a midi clip) to automation. I think it's pretty self explanatory but sometimes the waveform device stops working. I'm not sure why.

Let me know how this works for you guys!



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djod
Posts: 617
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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by djod » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:22 pm

Thanks for the patch.

Only the range selection doesn't work.
The value are 0, 0, 0, and I can't change them, the green field does nothing either.

prebentious
Posts: 312
Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:07 am

Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by prebentious » Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:02 am

Try this.
I replaced the waveform with an rslider and improved the min max boxes:

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djod
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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by djod » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:04 am

Oke, we're one step further.

The min max is now working.

The only thing that doesn't work now is the output.

I,ve linked a parameter on an instance of Analog
I have assigned a CC.
I've recorded into a Clip.
I've set the Min Max.
But there is no movement of the parameter on Analog. Its greyed out, so it is connected.
The Out numbox stays at 0.

One other thing.
It would be nice of you could stop the device from sending CC to the clip, cos it can reset your automation recording.
Live records clip automation in Latch mode. So all automation that's allready there after a record new automation desapears.
It would be nice to have a Touch mode, but I guess that's very hard to fix with M4L and should be a Live feature.

prebentious
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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by prebentious » Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:34 am

Huh,
It works for me. Maybe try this newer version?
Also, does it work if you use the rslider to set min and max, or just the number boxes?

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</code></pre>

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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by djod » Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:56 am

Hi, I tried it and no go.

I set the range with the rslider

There are 2 red cords

The other thing I see is that the ccsetgate object has a gray inside color, this indicates I'm missing an external, am I write?

I connected a numbox to the pack 0 0 0 object and it shows numbers,
But when I connect to the ccsetgate it shows only 0, so the flow stops there.

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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by djod » Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:24 am

Its working Now!

I connected the "pack 0 0 0" with the "unpack 0 0 0" skipping the "ccsetgate" object that wasn't working on my system.
very nice!

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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by prebentious » Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:39 am

AHA! ccsetgate is an abstraction I made. It's what I use to select which cc modulates the parameter. I guess I need to be more thorough about this sort of thing.

Here's the contents of the abstraction. You can paste it into a subpatcher or save it as an abstraction:

<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by djod » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:05 am

We have lift off! Its working now.

Thank you very much, this is awesome!!
Making Clip automation is a breeze now.

Also forget about what I said about the stopping record button, cos that's handled by live's record button.
I was a bit confused by all the routing, but the patch is actually just a placeholder for connecting the cc to the parameter of choice.

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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by Forge. » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:13 am

Hi
please forgive my total noobiness, but I've pasted the code into the patcher, it turned into all the objects patched together, but when I click "back to live" the device shown in Live just shows all the patches - I've clicked 'presentation mode' and it looks like I expect it's supposed to, then I locked it, saved it, not really sure what I'm meant to do here

I'm using it as a "Max MIDI device" - is that right?

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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by djod » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:21 am

In short: View > Patch Inspector > Open in presentation

The long story: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=124175


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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by djod » Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:48 am

To add a little to your fantastic job.
here on with the relevant parameters connected to a pattr so it save nice with the live set



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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by hoffman2k » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:14 am

For the sake of not having 2 miles of code to scroll thru, maybe try something like pastie: http://pastie.org/

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Re: Sharing is Fun. . .first try at recording session automation

Post by prebentious » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:38 pm

hoffman2k wrote:For the sake of not having 2 miles of code to scroll thru, maybe try something like pastie: http://pastie.org/
Good call!

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