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Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:24 pm
by Tweaking Knobs
One of the slogans of live was that i has a unified UI , there are no floating windows that interrupt your workflow.


well, yes its true , but when you use plug ins , its another story.

i use dont auto hide plug ins , i like to have inmmedite acces to my plugs.


so i think the abes should find a solution for this, some might say , use a second monitor, yeah , but what about if i use a laptop on stage or i just dont have another monitor.


do you also hate having all the vst interrupting your way and slowing down your work flow ?

Re: Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:35 pm
by Thomas
# 3 reason why I don't use vst's

Re: Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:51 pm
by hurlingdervish
just configure the parameters you will be using and use the live sliders instead

done.

Re: Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:24 pm
by Anubis
Steinberg's Wavelab solves this dilemma elegantly by allowing floating Vst windows to minimize in situ into a title bar.
Cakewalk's Sonar utilizes translucent "x-ray windows" that allow you to manipulate the host right thru a translucent image of the Vst.
Bottom line, you'd think Ableton should be as equally innovative as these companies?

Re: Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:39 pm
by hurlingdervish
Anubis wrote:Steinberg's Wavelab solves this dilemma elegantly by allowing floating Vst windows to minimize in situ into a title bar.
ummm....
Image

Re: Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:00 pm
by sporkles
hurlingdervish wrote:
ummm....
Image
Couldn't have said it better.

Re: Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:05 pm
by djsynchro
Anubis wrote:Steinberg's Wavelab solves this dilemma elegantly by allowing floating Vst windows to minimize in situ into a title bar.
Cakewalk's Sonar utilizes translucent "x-ray windows" that allow you to manipulate the host right thru a translucent image of the Vst.
Bottom line, you'd think Ableton should be as equally innovative as these companies?
They should be more innovative and they are.

Re: Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:44 pm
by Tweaking Knobs


what ?

that suggestion of using lives sliders instead is a great "user" solution.


but this ,has many disadvantages for the user :


waste of time having to configure the paramters
limiting your posibilties of inspiration once you set some paramters and only see those you configured : if you see the plug in itself you can be inspired by ALL the parameters of it, not just the ones you set.



so, its a good "workaround" but it still is not a real solution-

i think it would be cool if the tracks had one little button at the top right that would bring the plug in up or something like this.

Re: Ableton live user interface,non floating windows. really ?

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:12 pm
by globalk
Tweaking Knobs wrote:

what ?

that suggestion of using lives sliders instead is a great "user" solution.


but this ,has many disadvantages for the user :


waste of time having to configure the paramters
limiting your posibilties of inspiration once you set some paramters and only see those you configured : if you see the plug in itself you can be inspired by ALL the parameters of it, not just the ones you set.



so, its a good "workaround" but it still is not a real solution-

i think it would be cool if the tracks had one little button at the top right that would bring the plug in up or something like this.
In the studio use the full version of the window & when playing live (or when you don't want the distraction of switching windows) use the "workaround". You are not going to get a more streamlined solution then this?